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  •  How I hate the effing hypocrisy of "pro-lifers"! (11+ / 0-)

    Reading this diary (excellent, by the way, I recommended it, of course) nearly made me barf! GODS, it's hard to believe such hypocrisy!

    I think ALL abortion providers should follow the lead of the physician who refused to provide an abortion for a woman who said abortion was murder and that the doctor was therefore a murderer.

    Well, soon enough, abortion and contraception will be illegal and we'll all have to sneak out secretly on summer nights to gather sack after sack of Queen Anne's lace in bloom.  Jeez.  There are times when I wish I lived in a rational country.  Like Australia.

    If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got.

    by Diana in NoVa on Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 02:30:15 PM PDT

    •  Australia has troubles of its own (11+ / 0-)

      Victoria Labor MP Candy Broad is once again trying to decriminalize abortion there, even though the law is rarely enforced.

      Abortion laws still a threat to women

      But what about section 66 of the Victorian Crimes Act of 1958: "Supplying or procuring anything to be employed in abortion. Whosoever unlawfully supplies or procures any poison or other noxious thing or any instrument or thing whatsoever, knowing that the same is intended to be unlawfully used or employed with intent to procure the miscarriage of any woman, whether with child or not, shall be guilty of an indictable offence, and shall be liable to level 6 imprisonment (5 years maximum)." Whether with child or not?

      Ever since Dr Bert Wainer blew the lid off the abortion rackets in Victoria and corrupt standover cops were sent to prison, it has been generally accepted that the law cannot be enforced. From time to time some Catholic zealot, like MP Julian McGauran, will persecute some poor woman, using the Crimes Act as a stick, for trying to do the best for herself and her family in difficult or tragic circumstances. No doubt there were many co-religionists cheering him on, but for the majority of the population it was simply a distasteful reminder that there is a law on the books that we imagined was as obsolete as laws prohibiting blasphemy.

      As long as the law is there it is a threat to women and their doctors. It encourages furtiveness and anxiety about a procedure that is now commonplace. It intrudes the law into a part of life that is private and no business of politicians or their enforcers.

      It is an intolerable state of affairs that a woman and her doctor have only one defence against prosecution and that is the Menhennit rule that permits an abortion if the mother's health is in danger. The majority of women have abortions because they do not want a child. It is a matter of choice. And, in any case, the law on abortion is absolute and allows of no vindicating circumstances, so Menhennit is moot.

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      by moiv on Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 02:37:34 PM PDT

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    •  Queen Anne's Lace? (3+ / 0-)

      You mean the wild carrot? I know it's poison to livestock but does it have other properties as well?

      We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. Aesop (620 - 560 BC) -8.13, -7.74

      by AWhitneyBrown on Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 02:41:50 PM PDT

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      •  Used in a certain way, it's a contraceptive (0+ / 0-)

        If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got.

        by Diana in NoVa on Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 04:38:33 PM PDT

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        •  Minor tangent here. (5+ / 0-)
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          If I were given an option to resurrect one extinct organism, it wouldn't be a giant sloth or a T. Rex.  It'd be a fennel plant.  A very special fennel plant.

          Unlike many other medicines of its time, silphium was not thought of as a mere folk remedy; Scholars and doctors of the day openly praised the plant's effectiveness as a contraceptive. Ancient Rome's foremost gynecologist– a physician named Soranus– wrote that women should drink the silphium juice with water once a month since "it not only prevents conception but also destroys anything existing."

          Ok, so it couldn't be cultivated using ancient techniques.  But I'm sure we could work something out today.

          •  Yes, I've heard of that too (1+ / 0-)
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            And there's a plant in the Amazon rainforest that, ingested by a woman, prevents conception for 7 years!  I forget its name, but it was in a book by an American guy who spent a year or so in the Amazon rainforest.

            If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got.

            by Diana in NoVa on Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 01:57:38 PM PDT

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