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  •  FWIW, can't you hear things just as contradictory (3+ / 0-)
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    in a delivery room?  I remember a prenatal class instructor cautioning the men not to take very seriously or personally anything their wives/significant otheresses say might say in the delivery room.  As I recall, one example was,

    "Get the hell out of here!"
    [Husband gets up and walks toward the door.]  
    "Where on earth are you going?!"

    That's not as hypocritical as the women who take a day off picketing to come in for their own abortion, but it's just about as contradictory.

    A (lady) classmate of mine in medical school was so struck by some of the things she heard ladies say at the peak of labor that she made a point of asking some of them, the day after they delivered, "How was your labor?"  The usual answer was, "Oh, not bad."  My classmate was impressed at the consistency of this amnesia, and even suggested it may have had the biological 'purpose' [evolutionary advantage] of making it less unlikely that these ladies might have another baby.  It may be that the huge hormonal swings around the time of delivery blunt some memories.  
    Perhaps the same mechanism is playing a role in these ladies with their post-abortion returns to their anti-abortion politics.  You get big hormonal swings after an abortion, also.  For example, ladies can get the equivalent of post-partum depression in the weeks after an abortion.

    We're all pretty crazy some way or other; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is just a setting on the dryer.

    by david78209 on Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 07:15:20 PM PDT

    •  Eh, not equivalent. (2+ / 0-)
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      But maybe I'm just turned off by the use of the word "ladies" to describe women.

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      by mariva on Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 02:25:53 AM PDT

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    •  More Likely Providing Comfort to the Inseminator (3+ / 0-)
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      Uncle Toms would say they were poor but didn't know it. This was meant to ease the conscience of the not-poor.  
      I remember those pains and my deliveries were over 40 years ago.  My abortions hurt too, but not very much and not for long.
      When I saw the original "Texas Chain Saw Massacre" there is a scene where the man holds the end of the chain saw against the woman's crotch.  I immediately associated it with childbirth, but I bet it was not the impression the director intended.

    •  Extreme prolonged pain and duress of childbirth (1+ / 0-)
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      Certainly does not equate to having an abortion. And where have I heard this kind of argument before? Sounds suspiciously like the old-school logic that women's hormones make them irrational and emotional and therefore unfit for any public duty or demanding job.

      As for the term "ladies" when I see that sign on a restroom door, I feel confused and don't know where to go. I mean, I don't even know any "ladies," unless it's those blue-rinsed ones that go to my mother's church wearing hats and flowery dresses.

      "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -MLK

      by choice joyce on Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 10:01:22 AM PDT

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