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  •  The mommies and daddies thing is really (3+ / 0-)
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    interesting.  Why don't the mommies want to mix with daddies, do you think?  Strange daddies are boring?  If it were during the week, I'd wonder if the mommies socially outranked the daddies, and so I'd wonder if it was a reverse power thing.

    And there are great guys who actually work to get women hired.  I wish there were more.  My husband has gotten two women hired by the science college (that's a big proportion), but everyone assumes that's because I've pressured him.  Ha, ha.  Hiring women is a joke, after all.

    Have you asked your father how it worked out?  Sometimes the first woman has a really, really big burden, not the least of which is that she has no women buddies among the lawyers.  

    At one university I was at, after a seminar the guys all went off to the bathroom together.  They'd stand around and chat and so the one or two women were really completely closed off from the discussion.  Then either you waited in the hall for them - which was uncomfortable - or they went off to get food, coffee, beer whatever afterwards to continue their conversation.  At another (very tony) place I was at, after dinner, the women went off for coffee and the guys stayed and talked over port and cigars.  (Truly; it was a tradition in a very traditional place.)  So here again the occasional woman prof was cut off from the friendly intimacy the guys had then.

    Of course, one could object, but it can be VERY foolish for the first woman to question any of the traditions.

    "False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." Plato

    by JPete on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:15:39 PM PDT

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    •  IIRC, the first woman hired (2+ / 0-)
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      is now one of the stars of the firm.  

      When I was getting my MA in early elementary/special ed., I was one of very few men.  But I am so clueless on these things that the women could have been meeting all over the place, and I'd have no knowledge of it at all.  

      Now up: Republican motto Friday: WAYR? History, politics

      by plf515 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 06:17:40 PM PDT

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      •  When I was in grad school... (2+ / 0-)
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        JPete, plf515 mathematics, my professors stressed that the students needed to work together, that nobody learns in a vacuum.

        I was a loner.  I rarely worked with anyone else.  I guess I was in that vacuum.  There were few women grad students and they complained of having nobody to work with.  I guess it was my choice in the matter.  They had no choice.

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