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  •  well, yes I do (0+ / 0-)

    In Mrs. Edwards new book, "Saving Graces, Finding Solace and Strength from Friends and Strangers", she is quoted as saying this:

    "I listened to John in the other room, arguing into a speakerphone that we could not concede until the votes [in Ohio] were counted. "We promised," he said. "We told these people that if they stood in line and fought for their right to vote, we would fight to have them counted. We promised."

    This was widely blogged the other day, I'm surprised you missed it.  Here is a link to the story:

    •  This was an account that was told in late 2006 (3+ / 0-)
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      oncall, Allen, Indie Liberal

      when Edwards wanted to win the people on the left.

      If he really thought there was a case, shouldn't he have gone to the media in November 2004 and told them there was a fraudulent election.

      The count every vote is also disingenuous. The norm is that the loser concedes before every vote is counted. For instance, there will be absentee ballots in states like California that will not be counted until a few days later - well after the state's electoral votes are known to belong to one candidate or the other.

      Kerry said in his concession speech that all the votes would be counted - but that it was apparent that there were too few to make him the winner. They were counted later - and they were too few. (The RFK jr analysis includes estimates of people who gave up because the lines were too long.) Even now, though it is very likely more people in Ohio went to the polls to vote for Kerry, that it is still not possible to prove more people voted for him.

      •  my point exactly (3+ / 0-)
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        karenc, beachmom, Indie Liberal

        though it is very likely more people in Ohio went to the polls to vote for Kerry, . . . it is still not possible to prove more people voted for him.

        and he, with a lot more experience than the 1-term Senator from NC, knew it election night

        stop for a moment to think how that must have felt

        "What is a political regime, when devoid of justice, but organized crime?" (Augustine, DCD)

        by Allen on Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 07:37:20 PM PDT

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        •  It felt like all of us (3+ / 0-)
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          karenc, Indie Liberal, Tonga 23

          now, lets move on to getting rid of the roadblock republicans.

        •  It was obvious on his face and the faces of (3+ / 0-)
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          oncall, beachmom, Tonga 23

          his wife and daughter. I had never wanted anyone to win as much as I wanted Kerry to win in 2004. That it was against Bush would have been enough, but as I watched thge CSPAN rallies (not shown on more watched TV), saw the debates, and read of the fights he had fought, I knew he had the potential to be the best President I ever had the chance to vote for - and I've voted since 1972.

          I thought I couldn't watch the concession speech, but found I couldn't stay away. That speech was absolutely incredible and made the loss both harder because I was more certain of what the country lost, but also somewhat easier as he spoke of continuing to fight. He is a genuine hero in a generation that has had very few - and I am in awe of his ability to keep fighting with the grace, intelligence, and integrity that he has after winning an election that was incredibly stacked against him - and then having it stolen. He as much as anyone is responsible for the victory in 2006 - if only because he was willing to stand with the troops to demand a needed change in policy when party leaders preferred not to speak out.

    •  The arguing was with LEGAL TEAM of Dem (1+ / 0-)
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      election experts.

      You think for one SECOND that if Edwards was actually arguing with Kerry that Elizabeth wouldn't know it was with Kerry and would have said so in her book?

      Get real.  The Edwards have been vague about this point for political reasons. They know they can't confirm the myth that has grown around it at this point, so they remain vague.

      I don't blame them for the political jockeying, but I do blame the mythspreaders who haven't figured out by now that there was no legal evidence to continue in court - EDWARDS had no legal evidence to continue in court - and Ohio recount DID HAPPEN, albeit by Ohio rules which were also set up for Bush's benefits.

      That real negligence was allowed in the YEARS before by the DNC and its state parties like Ohio which were allowed to collapse since 1997.

      Blaming Kerry has been very convenient in protecting all those who DID fail the Dem party and its candidates in the years BEFORE that Nov day in 2004.

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