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  •  Take a look at the voting records (1+ / 0-)
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    when they come out for both bills. Here's the current List of Honour:

    Did anyone notice any others who voted No on both? What were Byrd's votes? I'm hoping desperately for more Senators to honour. If not...well, we have two Presidential candidates on the Senate list, plus Edwards who I believe is against the bill and Kucinich who I guarantee is going to hold his ground in the House. Five Senators out of 50 is shameful but the names give me some hope. And maybe we'll see better numbers in the House.

    Not that I think we have until the elections to fix this. This isn't the end of the coup. But we have some good leadership within the current government, so reform may be possible. They're not all pod-people yet.

    We have never been at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

    by kyril on Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 12:51:02 AM PDT

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    •  It's possible that some of the non voting were (0+ / 0-)

      NOs on both too. This vote was well after they could reasonably expect to be gone - as those no votes would change nothing - it would be difficult to sacrifice anything important they were scheduled to do. The problem is that there were 16 Democrats siding with the Republicans. The Republicans did not even need to call in people like Lott, Lugar, Gregg or McCain to get 60 votes. (Which is very scary - this REALLY is the majority bi-partisan position of the Senate. And it is abysmal. )

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