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  •  Can't speak for him obviously (6+ / 0-)

    but it seems Fein is saying that it's not enough that they say "Sorry!" but that they "renounce this claim. No military commissions. We're going to comply with the law"

    In other words undo the (numerous!) unconstitutional things that this administration's done.

    But in spirit I certainly agree with you moreso than Fein. Saying "Sorry!" isn't enough; undoing - if that's even possible now - their screwups isn't enough. I think there needs to be teeth (i.e. consequences) for any lessons to be learned by this and future presidents.

    This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no foolin' around!

    by Snud on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 08:35:57 PM PDT

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    •  To this layman (7+ / 0-)

      In the leading discussion about Clinton, Fein said that if he had "apologized" and "expressed repentance", then he should not have been impeached.

      In the following discussion about Bush & Cheney, he didn't exactly say that, he said "renounce this claim". Perhaps that phrase has a specific legal meaning that I'm not sentitive to, but to this layman, it doesn't matter. Fein's position is that all they have to do is flap their jaws and emit a sufficiently correct-sounding collection of words, and all's well. They're off the hook.

      Nonsense. My position is that no matter how much they squawk, it's not good enough. Booting them out would be "the greatest precedent".

      Molly Ivins wanted WHO for President? But WHY?

      by Positronicus on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 09:03:02 PM PDT

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      •  They're not likely to resign nor apologize (3+ / 0-)
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        but of the two choices, resignation is the more likely.  I heard Nixon on the radio, resigning almost exactly 33 years ago.  I'd dearly love to hear that again.

        But apologizing, renouncing, stopping illegal activities, replacing cronies with competent people, restoring habeas and re-joining Geneva?  Not a chance.

        The Republicans are defunding, not defending, America.

        by DSPS owl on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 11:45:05 PM PDT

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