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  •  I am not advocating ignoring other problems (1+ / 0-)
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    Auto mileage standards haven't changed since Carter. The technology is available. American car companies have not been competing with Honda and Toyota. They've been building and Americans have been buying fuel-inefficient vehicles. I believe increasing fuel economy and investing in alternative fuels are part of increasing our national security. I do not believe we are doing the American auto industry any favors by "letting the market decide".

    The CAFE standards are a point of difference between the Senate and the House versions of the energy bills that passed. I would like to know how the Speaker anticipates that will be resolved in conference.

    To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. Abraham Lincoln

    by forbodyandmind on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:04:54 AM PDT

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    •  GM has taken back #1 from Honda. (1+ / 0-)
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      My point is that CAFE standards are secondary to a whole host of things related to the environment, clean air specifically, and reducing dependency on oil - both of which I whole heartedly support.  The goal has to be technology that produces different fuels and new industries instead of the tired and useless demand for "more mileage out of the same ol' shit".  The auto industry is asking (begging) for a concerted and committed policy of alternative fuels. Why do you think Dingell put all of that in his bill?  For example:  Why ethanol from corn (driving up food costs)instead of legalizing and using hemp?  This taboo on hemp is stupid, irrational, and totally incomprehensible.  How about much, much more use of solar power in the sun belts?  Why are you forcing SW industries into reducing their energy consumption and pollution instead of the autos?  There are other solutions besides CAFE, but all of the environmentalist don't seem to be able to get out of their boxes.   You need to look at different and bigger and varied solutions and get off and out of the CAFE rut.  There is a gold mine and a future to be had in protecting the environment, if you guys would just reach for it.  You should talk to Dingell.  You might find an environmental ally in him IF you open your mind to other solutions besides CAFE.

      No justice, no peace.

      by dkmich on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:42:38 AM PDT

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      •  Thought you might find this interesting. (1+ / 0-)
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        Source:  Chrysler

        Loren Beard stirred things up at the end of a weeklong industry conference.
        The Chrysler Senior Manager of Energy Planning and Policy named the five groups that he says are trying to stop the growth of alternative fuels.
        Speaking at the annual Management Briefing Seminars conference, held outside Traverse City, Mich., Beard said the groups have their own interests to protect. What might be a surprise to some is the inclusion of "Big Agriculture", some environmental groups and some automakers.
        The five groups are:

        1. Big Oil

        – Alternative Fuels eat into their market share, complicate distribution operations and may require special components and unique additives at refineries.

        1. Big Agriculture

        – They support feedstock-specific biofuels such as soybeans and corn and want to maintain current tax incentives that support their crops. The Renewable Fuels Association supports mid-level blends of ethanol, which will effectively kill the E85 program.

        1. "Silver Bullet" Carmakers
        • They believe that their technology is the only answer to improving fuel economy.
        • Look to parochial interests rather than national and global interests
        1. Fringe Environmental Groups
        • They need "crisis" PR to attract donations
        • Focus on imaginary "silver bullet" long-term technologies without respect to real world economics.
        1. OPEC
        • Need to support high production rates at high prices
        • Use their market position to influence political positions

        Beard also listed the five reasons they can't succeed:

        • Finite petroleum resources
        • Petroleum held by hostile regimes
        • Greenhouse gases
        • Alternative fuels create jobs on American farms, in American processing plants and in American transportation
        • U.S. balance of trade

        No justice, no peace.

        by dkmich on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:58:02 AM PDT

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      •  thanks for this response (1+ / 0-)
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        I've read a couple of your diaries on alternative fuels (Focus on Alternative Energy and Automotive X PRIZE, I think), so I know you have a lot more info on this subject than I do. It just seems to me that 30 years without updated mileage standards is irresponsible, and that they should be one component of a multi-faceted, reinvigorated, environmentally sound energy policy. I fully agree that there are alternative solutions that should be great business investments.

        To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. Abraham Lincoln

        by forbodyandmind on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 05:26:00 AM PDT

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        •  I do agree with increased CAFE on one level. (1+ / 0-)
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          I think the autos would benefit as a result.  However, Michigan and autos are having huge problems right now.  Part of it is due to poor management/design, and a good half of it is about unions, benefits, and legacies. Let me know how you meeting goes.

          No justice, no peace.

          by dkmich on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:47:14 PM PDT

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          •  full diary on the meeting tomorrow (1+ / 0-)
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            For right now, I focussed mainly on impeachment. Since I did bring up CAFE standards in my original meeting request, Melanie (Speaker Pelosi's Deputy District Director) did hand me an info sheet and talked a bit about that.

            Bottom line for me, with different versions of the energy bill in the House and Senate, it's going to come down to the conference committee. Melanie said that Pelosi is strongly in favor of the Senate version, while Dingell is a strong opponent. I hope that they'll be able to arrive at a compromise that can pass both the Senate and the House, but I'm concerned that conflicting interests could torpedo the whole thing.

            To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. Abraham Lincoln

            by forbodyandmind on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:12:14 PM PDT

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