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  •  Fox's reporting (9+ / 0-)

    Just like to point out that while msnbc and cnn run this big as their #1 story, fox's website doesn't have it at all. I guess they just want to ignore anything bad coming out of Iraq.

    •  Dontcha know it's unpatriotic (5+ / 0-)

      to report anything bad coming out of Eye-Rack?

      Now, settle down and eat your gruel, peasant.

      Let's Grow Our Own Candidates!

      by moosely2006 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:44:17 PM PDT

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    •  I saw one study (6+ / 0-)

      that showed Fox devoting less than 1/3 the amount of time CNN or MSNBC devotes to Iraq.

      Bad news for repubs = no news on Fox

      "People hate Bush and hate this war. It's that simple, and it's been true for quite some time" - Atrios

      by atrexler on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:46:19 PM PDT

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    •  And heeeeeere's the reason why: (5+ / 0-)

      Four suicide bombers hit a Kurdish Yazidi community in northwest Iraq on Tuesday, killing at least 175 people and wounding 200 others, the Iraqi military said.

      Yazidis are members of an ancient, primarily Kurdish, religious sect that worships an angel figure some that Christians and Muslims believe to be the devil.

      Like these folks are going to count as real people to the folks at FOX.

      17. Ne5

      In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, Budapest, 1929

      by Spud1 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:47:40 PM PDT

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      •  Yazidi (5+ / 0-)

        These "real people" are the ones who, in a huge mob, stoned 17-year old Du’a Khalil Aswad to death, recorded it on cell phones, and posted it on the internet. Because she was seeing a Sunni boy. There have already been other reprisal killings against them. Not everything that happens in Iraq has to do with us.

        •  I doubt it was the same people (3+ / 0-)
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          The attacks on Yazidi was likely because they are a vulnerable minority group and because getting Kurds involved in a 3 way Civil War would really complicate life for the US. A few people who were Yazidi engaged in an honor killing last year but that shouldnt reflect on all Yazidi and I doubt anyone in Iraq would know about the incident (it got coverage in the US because it seemed specifically horrifying but with so many deaths and sectarian killings acrosss Iraq everyday it probably wouldnt have gotten much coverage there)

          Yazidi are also regarded as worshiping Satan by some Muslims (largely because the God of the Yazidi is sometimes known as Shaytan):

          In the Yazidi worldview, God created the world, which is now in the care of a Heptad of seven Holy Beings, often known as Angels or heft sirr (the Seven Mysteries). Pre-eminent among these is Melek Taus (Tawûsê Melek in Kurdish), the Peacock Angel, who is equated with Satan or Devil by some Muslims and Christians. According to the Encyclopedia of the Orient, "The reason for the Yazidis reputation of being devil worshipers, is connected to the other name of Melek Taus, Shaytan, the same name as the Koran's for Satan."[2] However, according to the Kurdish linguist Jamal Nebez, the word Taus is most probably derived from the Greek and is related to the words Zeus and Theos, alluding to the meaning of God. Accordingly, Malak Ta'us is God's Angel, and this is how Yezidis themselves see Melek Taus or Taus-e-Malak

          http://en.wikipedia.org/...

          •  Many people in Iraq know about this incident (3+ / 0-)
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            And Yezidis are being killed for it, en masse.  There were a number of Yezidis killed in Mosul immediately after the attack.

            But don't think that the Sunni fundamentalists are killing the Yezidis because of rage at the concept of honor killing and in defense of women's rights.  Honor killings occur with similar frequency in the Arab and Sunni community.  They are doing it because the girl was killed for being in love with a Muslim.  That was an insult against religion. This also feeds into a much deeper struggle - Yezidis were ethnically cleansed from a wide area starting in the 1970's right through 2003.  They are now in violent conflict with the Arab tribes who forced them from their lands.  This conflict needs to be seen in that light also.

            In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ...Thomas Jefferson

            by ivorybill on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:24:43 PM PDT

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            •  Curious where they heard about it (2+ / 0-)
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              I saw more coverage of it on CNN than on the BBC or Al Jazeera. I guess it spread more by word of mouth by those who wanted to stoke ethnic conflict? The Yazidi have been pretty proUS for self protection reasons so could that also have figured into the attacks?

              •  It was on local TV (0+ / 0-)

                Also it was reported in local newspapers.  Despite the chaos, or maybe because of it, all sorts of things are reported in local media.  Also the boy's family in Mosul certainly spread the word around.  I'm not sure if he was also killed, but he might have been.  The Yezidis are being attacked for their land, for the fact that they are Kurdish, and because they are more or less pro-US.  However, they are pro-US because they were anti-Ba'ath... and joined with the US because of opposition to Saddam.

                In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ...Thomas Jefferson

                by ivorybill on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 07:29:58 AM PDT

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        •  I didn't say we were to blame - only that FOX (2+ / 0-)
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          isn't reporting it for a reason. And no matter, they are still people. The Sunni's and Shiite's perform honro killings all the time too, and yet somehow they are still human beings. India still sees dowry killings. Our country executes convicts.

          17. Ne5

          In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, Budapest, 1929

          by Spud1 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:34:30 PM PDT

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