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    Liberals also see it as political because we believe that government has a role in protecting us from out-of-control markets.

    The obesity epidemic is a consequence of corporations (developers as well as food manufacturers and restaurants) ignoring the demands of public health and the common good.

    "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." Frederick Douglass

    by dcdanny on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 03:37:10 AM PDT

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      But Conservatives can easily contend that the reason Health Care is an out-of-control market is because of the huge influxes of Government programs and that if the "false demand" wasn't created by these Government programs then the supply of Health Care would balance with the Demand and an equilibrium would be found.

      The result would be a lot of unhappy people who are told that thier child/parent no longer has Health Care provided by the Government. So we all know that Republicans will not let he government programs die - just suffer and when the population cries enough, offer a subsidy to the pharm and insurance corps to fill the gap.

      It's all political games and until there really is Socialized medicine in one form or another there will be this continuous struggle between making the citizens not angry and making the Pharm/Insurance corps happy.

      Bush - Clinton - Bush - Clinton: Out of 295,734,134 (July 2005 est.) Americans, this is the best we can do?

      by Yoshi En Son on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 04:25:39 AM PDT

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      •  long past time (2+ / 0-)
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        to stop worrying about what the the conservatives will say. even if we try our best to give them no ammunition they will just lie. and beat us with what ever made up stick they come up with.

        Like liberals are going to ban the bible.

        so we might as well stop worrying and do what we think is right.

        Of all the diversions of life, there is none so proper to fill up its empty spaces as the reading of useful and entertaining authors. ~ Joseph Addison

        by the littlest gator on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 04:35:21 AM PDT

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        •  well, if we had veto proof majorities (0+ / 0-)

          with nearly all of them in safe seats - then yes, we could brush aside an administrations attempts: but with the ammount of money which is put into the process from the various sectors, and the vast number of people which are affected - it is far beyond what a small group of activists have any right to accomplish. This is something that affects the entire country in very life changing ways.

          I'm all for it - have been for years and have discussed it with many intelligent people who are very opposed to the idea of socialized medicine.  The best argument that I find which atleast gets them to listen is that we are already paying for it. When an uninsured person gets desperately sick - they go to the Emergency Room, where they will not be turned away.  And that costs a lot more than if they had just gone to a physician.. and likely even less if they had gone prior to it becoming serious.

          But alas, the idea of masive increases in the budget due to socialized medicine is a very large hurdle.  Many do not like the concept of waiting 6 months to see a doctor either.

          But in the End - maybe 100 years from now - Liberals will .. "win" this battle.. it's just a matter of time.

          Conservatives might not even realize it - but they have already given in to Socialized Medicine.. now it's just a matter of time before it happens.  Once they passed the Perscription Medicine bill - that set the precedent of them agreeing that the federal government has a role in health care.

          Bush - Clinton - Bush - Clinton: Out of 295,734,134 (July 2005 est.) Americans, this is the best we can do?

          by Yoshi En Son on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 04:47:55 AM PDT

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