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  •  since all (none)
    trace of Chris Rhodes' being here has disappeared, I can't even go back and see how trolly he was. Oh well...

    I'm happy with my $20 of influence

    by JMS on Mon Jul 12, 2004 at 12:46:15 PM PDT

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    •  I don't remember him being "trolly" (none)
      just lame; but then, I think that of almost all Ditka fans.  


      "By focusing fear and hatred on the Tutsi, the organizers hoped to forge solidarity among Hutu." -- Human Rights Watch

      by a gilas girl on Mon Jul 12, 2004 at 12:59:11 PM PDT

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    •  Here's the deal. (4.00)
      He bascially posted diaries on the Illinois Senate race.

      He had one diary that was pretty much informational:  "they're considering Ditka" but had 'old school' troll qualities. (ie.  he wasn't a rager, he just was very unclear about his motivations. If I remember right he said, "Obama doesn't have much to worry about yet," which could be read multiple ways.)

      Today he posted a diary with the headline title.

      ......Ditka, Ditka, Ditka.....

      Sorry. That's, one toke over the line....

      Now, as for my take an this brouhaha, I'd encourage you to think of it this way:


      dKos is like a "leftie Democrat club" card table on a college campus on a nice day. It belongs to Markos, but he lets us use it and sit at it.  The front page, the diaries and the comments are like the people siting behind the table.  The readership is like the people who walk up to get information.

      All of us members of the "leftie Democrat club" like the fact that there's all this information and good debate at our card table.

      But do we want to debate people who directly oppose us at our table?  Do we want to tolerate persistant disingenuous folks who come up and snoop around?  Not really, especially if that blocks our ability to do what we're trying to in the first place, which is reach people who want to join the "leftie Democrat club" and maybe even participate here.

      Further, do we want to let folks who oppose the "leftie Democrat club" and what it stands for USE our table, sit down next to us and hand out information for their side? No, of course not.  

      Basically what Markos said to them was:  Get your own goddam card table.  It's a free country.

      I agree.

      2004's the election, 2005's the prize...let'sTCB!

      by kid oakland on Mon Jul 12, 2004 at 01:11:52 PM PDT

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      •  card table analogy (none)
        doesn't cut it for me, since if it were a card table and the guy came over to talk I wouldn't feel legitimate in telling him to go away, unless he was antagonizing the people I was trying to reach, or was trying to represent my card table in an inaccurate, dishonest, or potentially disruptive/destructive manner. If we stake out a place on the public sidewalk to begin a discussion, we have to accept even the dumb stuff that comes along, as long as it does no harm.  Three Ditka's is a pretty stupid title, but not a reason to ban.

        So you agree and I disagree.  And we've both said our pieces.  That's the point.

        "By focusing fear and hatred on the Tutsi, the organizers hoped to forge solidarity among Hutu." -- Human Rights Watch

        by a gilas girl on Tue Jul 13, 2004 at 10:13:38 AM PDT

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