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  •  Reality (8+ / 0-)

    I tried to post this in another thread, but it wasn't working.  Please forgive if you feel this is off topic, but the mis-information out there regarding the Iraq authorization vote needs to be addressed:

    Although it was apparent to me from day one that the cheney/bush regime wasn't to be trusted on any substantive issue due to a well established and pre-existing pattern of systematic disinformation to promote a divisive and polarizing extreme right political agenda, it must be noted here that the US Congress was LIED TO by this maladministration regarding the 'threat' posed by Saddam Hussein.

    THEY SAID: We need to present a united front to the United Nations, so that we can be taken seriously if and when a necessary resolution for use of force against Saddam is sought in that body.

    WHAT HAPPENED:  No additional UN resolution was sought in the security council, due to opposition of several of the permanent members, who have veto authority in that body.

    THEY SAID:  War is a LAST RESORT, we have unimpeachable intelligence regarding Saddam's WMD program.  We NEED this resolution to pressure Saddam to allow the inspectors back in to Iraq.

    WHAT HAPPENED:  Inspectors were ordered out of Iraq, so that the murderers in the executive branch could use the chaos of war to transfer huge amounts of the US Treasury to private, 'for profit' corporate entities.  This is their agenda, this is what they do.  This is who they are

    •  How come (8+ / 0-)

      I'm just an ordinary citizen and I even knew that Iraq posed no threat to the US back in 02 or 03?  No, the Congress voted to authorize force because they were political cowards. They all knew, but they figured a no vote would end their careers. They were wrong. Cowardice and bad judgement.

      We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. Aesop (620 - 560 BC) -8.13, -7.74

      by AWhitneyBrown on Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 10:54:12 AM PDT

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      •  I have been asking this same questions for a few (4+ / 0-)

        years - i don't remember having special powers back then but obviously I was getting my information from somewhere (here most likely) that all of the democrats couldn't find.

        "For me, walking into a nice Jewish deli IS a religious experience." -my mom

        by ETinKC on Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 11:05:34 AM PDT

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        •  Here and There, (3+ / 0-)
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          Really, one just had to read between the lines, or have one's eyes open.

          And this courage to say that the whole thing was, is, and will always be complete bullshit.

          Kerry, for example, was such a coward that he felt he had to say that even if he knew back then what he knew now (2004), he still would have voted for it.

          Now, I voted for him, but, I swear, right there, my heart sank.  I said to myself, "Oh, shit.  I think his goose is cooked."

          To announce...that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.

          by potownman on Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 11:39:47 AM PDT

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          •  Can't remember how I knew it was BS (1+ / 0-)
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            But I damn sure knew Bush and Cheney were liars.  I still haven't heard the words, "You were right" from my Republican family members who LOVED W from the start, but have since mostly returned to reality.

            On a lighter note I find it interesting that Kos likes ferrets.  My nephews just got a pair and the more I play with them, the funnier they are.  They sure sleep a lot though.

      •  I understand your point (2+ / 0-)
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        I too am a mere citizen, perhaps a bit better informed than the average American.. ok, a LOT MORE informed, but that's more of a knock against the MSM than it is any special skill on my part.  I'm no wizard, but I realized that Iraq posed ZERO threat to America.  in fact, I would suggest that the Saddam Hussein regime, as despotic as it may have been, represented a containment of more radical Islamic elements in that region.  Saddam Hussein was a SECULARIST.  The idea that Saddam would make common cause with Osama bin Laden is absurd on the face of it.  However, the White House continued to deliver a dishonest message to the American People, conflating the attack of 9/11 with the Saddam Hussein regime.  The MSM not only failed to pierce through this absurdity, they facilitated it!  

        I recall listening to C-SPAN radio in Northern Virginia in November of 2002.  Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) was asking "Why is this body, the US Senate chamber empty?  Why aren't we discussing the potential invasion of a sovereign nation that hasn't attacked the U.S.?"  I felt like I had fallen into an Alice in Wonderland rabbit hole.  The beat goes on.

    •  The vote , Biden on npr (0+ / 0-)

      http://www.npr.org/...

      "Well, Sen. Lugar and I did speak a different way for five months. There's a lot of revisionist history that goes on these days about Iraq. But remember what the context was. The context was, 'Do we lift the embargo or do we pressure the international community to tighten the embargo on Saddam Hussein?' So this was designed to avoid war."

      l'essentiel est invisible

      by indycam on Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 12:29:59 PM PDT

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    •  the UN has been storing WMDs!! (1+ / 0-)
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      linky Holy Moly!

      Support Fox News - vote Hillary/Murdoch08

      by annefrank on Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 01:41:47 PM PDT

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