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  •  If you run into a Catholic who will only (1+ / 0-)
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    take Communion from Catholic, hand him the Eucharist. A Catholic may take Communion by themselves, it is not a sacrament that needs two people. The sacrament is in taking the Eucharist and becoming one with Christ, not in who confers it on you. I know Catholics who travel to countries where there is no Catholic mass available, and no priests. They get consecrated Eucharists from their priest and take Communion on their own after the appropriate private prayers. Communion is not like Baptism where the consecration of one person is passed on to the other, it is a singular sacrament that can be experienced alone, just the communicant and the Eucharist.

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    by Demfem on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 08:06:11 AM PDT

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    •  I understand this but (0+ / 0-)

      my supply of consecrated wafers and wine come from the Episcopal Church.  If I'm not mistaken, the communion elements have to be consecrated by a Catholic priest in order to be considered the true body and blood of Jesus.

      Now, another explanation I have received from my spiritual director is that people in hospice, being at the end stage of life, are far more open.  And I do believe this is true.

      I'm just not happy with the hospice's approach.  What approach I have developed is that I start out saying that I'm an LEM from the hospice.  Most of the time that's simply accepted.  On the few occasions where I'm asked my denomination, I tell the truth and have never been turned away - which confirms what my spiritual director said.

      But thanks for your information, it's very  helpful and, in fact, might be an approach that will be needed and used some day.

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      by hells kitchen on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 08:25:50 AM PDT

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      •  Since you work for a hospice, you (1+ / 0-)
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        should be able to get consecrated wafers from the local Catholic church. Just tell the priest why you want them and he will give them to you. He may even volunteer to come give Communion to your Catholic patients. He will certainly supply you with wafers, and perhaps consecrated oil for the last rites. If I recall correctly, the Episcopal Church is considered a "schismatic" church, not a heretical one. Rather like Russian and Eastern Orthodox. When I went to Russia in high school, I was told that going to mass at a schismatic church, ie Russian Orthodox, did count as fulfilling my obligation to hear mass. Communion counted too. In other words, their priests were able to "properly" consecrate the sacraments. But it might just be better to get some that were consecrated by a Catholic priest and give them out to your Catholic patients. Explaining canon law to a dying person is probably a distraction they don't need at that time.

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        by Demfem on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 09:35:40 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks again. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm getting more information from you than the organizatin I'm volunteering with.

          My moniker is in honor of three generations of women whose soul's were seared in the cauldron of Hell's Kitchen, NYC

          by hells kitchen on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 02:03:05 PM PDT

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