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  •  Occupation, not war (16+ / 0-)

    It's an important distinction to make. GWB's identity as a war president, with the specific powers that go along with being a war president, hinge on Congress not understanding the difference between a war and an occupation - in a nation at Civil War.

    You and VoteVets can help by acting on this distinction and pushing Congress to understand the implications.

    From George Lakoff

    It is time to tell an inconvenient truth about Iraq: it is an occupation, not a war. In wars, armies fight to dominate land. The US won the war three years ago when Bush said, "Mission Accomplished". Then the occupation started, and our troops were not trained or equipped for an occupation under predictably hostile circumstances. Finally getting the courage to tell the truth that the US is an occupying force drastically changes the picture in Iraq. You cannot "win" an occupation. "Cut and run" does not apply to an occupation. Occupiers have to leave; the only question is when and how. Progressive Democrats agree that it should be soon; they only disagree on details. Political courage is called for. Truth now!

    •  Courage not needed (1+ / 0-)
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      Just pat the doubters on the back and lead them to the next stage.  All reasonable goals accomplished, organize the the victory marches.  

      The surge becomes the bandwagon.  Dems and GOP wave flags as the troops come home by Nov08.  Once withdrawl starts, the momentum will be unstoppable.    

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