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  •  Kennedy is completely mad. (23+ / 0-)

    I occasionally will get up early on a weekend morning to see what he is on about on a given week.  His "documentaries" are incredibly disturbing in part because the writing and production values are of such high quality.

    He has done several pieces on his version of American History that are completely twisted and cleverly woven together to bring people to all of the wrong conclusions.

    I am horrified to learn that Kennedy's operation has had exclusive access to our Armed Forces.

    Who do you think is going to take up the leadership of Coral Ridge?

    •  what I am counting on... (14+ / 0-)

      is that the inevitable backlash to this kind of religious fervor will take place as it has always done.

      this is NOT the first 'army of god' type of attack on the secular make up of wont be the last either.  

      just as a positive forward move always happens in our nation after a backwards move to conservatism, i hope, will the rejection of religious fanaticism occur.

      i HOPE.

      and i see positive signs that the backlash has already begun within the population of the 'faithful'  away from hatemongering, away from religious donimation by one fringe sect and towards the REAL teachings ...especially in this new movement to bring evangelicals into the fight to protect defend and preserve our earth.

      there is an entire generation of the faithful that is LOST to us...many will never wake up and see reality but their CHILDREN will....and that is how this kind of dangerous religious attack on our nation dies away in the end....bless the rebellious nature of children.

      our nation is due for a forward push....the backwards religious attacks just help to make the wave of forward progress grow larger.

      the best defense, right now, against the coral ridge crowd is exposure to the light of day.


      by KnotIookin on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 09:06:01 AM PDT

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      •  The backlash with Pat Robertson has (17+ / 0-)

        been somewhat evident, but Kennedy is a very different animal.  That's why I sometimes watched him.  He used an "intellectual" approach to mindmeld his followers.  I remember that my fairly well educated Grandparents had some affinity for him before they died.  The way that his operation presented their political agenda was through carefully constructed "objective" data - of course, there was nothing objective about it, but it had that air about it.  Much more subtle than a Fox News piece or something Robertson or Falwell would ever say.  That scared me.  The Founding Fathers piece I saw was chilling.  The cherry picked quotes from documents that may or may not have really existed and the complete bastardization of historical facts and their context in history really was chilling.  Someone mentioned his piece on Darwin downthread and that was amazing in its construction as well.  What it comes down to is that these pieces are riddled with lies and misrepresentations of facts, but a lot of Americans don't have the educational foundation to realize that what they are watching is full of lies.  He doesn't rail against Darwin or call him a devil - he just lies about him and creates stories about what they define as "the real" meaning of his work - they co-opt these figures and I'd say that they are pretty good at it.  These "documentaries" are better produced and written than a lot of stuff you'd see on the history channel - and if you didn't know better - hadn't paid attention in high school to American History class - you'd hardly notice how you were being manipulated or even the religious nature of the product.

      •  Hope you are right. (0+ / 0-)

        The hungry judges soon the sentence sign, And wretches hang, that jurymen may dine.

        by magnetics on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 11:22:48 AM PDT

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      •  Why is there an "inevitable backlash" ? (4+ / 0-)
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        mataliandy, Byrnt, debedb, Terra Mystica

        And, are you sure the promotion of politicized religious ideology in the US military has precedent ? I'm not aware of anything in US history even remotely comparable to what's discussed in this post and the posts I've made on the subject.

        I agree that the best defense is exposure, but I see little to no institutional pushback the the forces pushing the US military towards a polarized religious ideology... yet.

        •  Why is there an "inevitable backlash" ? (1+ / 0-)
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          because it is the nature of mankind that children will turn away from the strict teaching of their parents...for the most part.

          imho that is why the rebellious 60's was followed by a generation of people hellbent to become part of the bizneth class...and their kids searched for a greater meaning then just making money...and got caught up in following false prophets...the tide ALWAYS turns.

          "one generation got OLD
          one generation got SOLD"

          history really does repeat itself....maybe not exactly as it went before but religious fanatics have tried to take control of our nation before...perhaps NOT in our military but in other ways...and it has never succeeded...but they continue to try.

          its really hard to kill over 200 years of self determination...

          it may work for a while but there is always another generation of people who will need to be 'controlled' and it doesnt get easier to control gets harder.

          I agree, the infiltration of our armed forces by religious fanatics is quite disturbing...but little by little we CAN rid ourselves of these anti- americans...and that is what they are..they are people who want to see the great experiment in free choice and self determination DIE....and put stict autoritarianism in its place.

          we HAVE seen this nazi germany...they came awfully close to succeeding but they failed.

          "bad things happen when good people sit by and do nothing"  

          there are to many good people who refuse to 'do nothing' in our nation which is why MY MONEY is on representative Democracy surviving this current attack...


          by KnotIookin on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 03:04:29 PM PDT

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        •  Protestant evangilizing has a long history (2+ / 0-)
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          going back before the Mexican-American War.  And I'm not aware of any backlash against it.  

          Unless you can't the Irish Catholic soldiers who went over to the Mexican side and formed the St. Patrick's Brigaed - in protest against being forced to say Protestant prayers and denied the right to attend mass.

          Seriously, the trope of a pendulum that swings - and is self-correcting - is a myth.  Happens sometimes, I suppose.  But there's no magic mechanism that we can count on.

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