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  •  Let's get real - (4+ / 0-)

    as long as unions continue to behave like reserve troops and ATM's for leading DEM candidates, they aren't going to get much more than lip service from the DEM Party.  The GOP has its deluded fundies and dittoheads and the DEM has its unions.  Neither is going to say "ENOUGH, already!" and walk away because there's nowhere else to go.  And lip service beats nothing.

    What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

    by Marie on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 12:18:22 PM PDT

    •  There's a lesson in that (4+ / 0-)
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      for all of us.

      The corrupt, cowering, accommodationist Party nomenklatura will continue to spit at us the minute we're not looking unless or until we can convince them that we're quite capable of turning our backs and walking.

      Why is it always their side that gets to play "my way or the highway"?

      •  Both parties are nothing more (2+ / 0-)
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        than a collection of strange bedfellows.  Only the corporations have succeeded in straddling between the two parties which is why they are the only functional power base that gets things done for themselves.  The rest of us, on both sides, are just the boobs along for the ride to crony capitalist nirvana.  When we get there, the fundies will try to fill their bellies with the straw of their non-Christian belief system and the lefties will plant non-victory gardens.

        What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

        by Marie on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 12:40:10 PM PDT

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      •  A slightly different take (1+ / 0-)
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        I think the implicit threat doesn't need to be "turning out backs and walking", which I inferred in this context meant, "not giving money/time/votes to your candidates."

        I think the more profound threat would be abandoning the political process as a whole in favor of another process -- that is, if you can't pass laws to accomplish A, B and C we'll just deal with it directly by fighting our bosses, which will disrupt the economy and get the whole country riled up.

        Remember, the Wagner Act was passed in order to foster "industrial peace" -- implying that unrest or outright conflict would result from Federal inaction.  The ideal situation is for workers to just fight for what we want, and have the government, on behalf of the bosses, come to us saying, "Isn't there some other way we can settle this...?"

        But that would involve, IMHO, a very different culture and ideology among American workers, and I don't know how that nut can get cracked quickly enough to deal with all the varied buckets of shit that are about to hit our national fan.

        "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

        by Pesto on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 12:53:22 PM PDT

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        •  Actually, what I meant by (1+ / 0-)
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          "turning our backs and walking" includes everything from withholding money to leaving the party altogether, depending on the extremity of the circumstances.

          •  I think the reason that the Dems don't worry (1+ / 0-)
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            about that is that, for the most part, they don't really think the labor folks they deal with in DC see any alternative to achieving their goals through legislative action.

            And they know that the Dems are the only vehicle for legislative reform that's friendly to labor (or at least, not incredibly hostile).

            My guess is that they think they have something workers can't get anywhere else -- a route to stronger unions -- and they figure that they can therefor set the timeline and conditions for workers to get it.

            Sorta like how they deal with stopping the War.

            "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

            by Pesto on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 01:21:04 PM PDT

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