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  •  It wasn't illegal to join unions (3+ / 0-)
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    jxg, Jon Stafford, Mr Stagger Lee

    before the Wagner Act, Wade.  Seriously, that's just ridiculous.  It was perfectly legal for bosses to fire workers for wanting a union, or to make them sign "yellow sheets" -- but it wasn't illegal for bosses to sign contracts with workers' unions, or for courts to enforce collectively-bargained contracts.

    And we're not going to get "another FDR" until we get another Huey Long or Upton Sinclair or Eugene V. Debs to really scare the crap out of Capital and make them want to cut a deal with whoever's in the White House.

    "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

    by Pesto on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 12:33:31 PM PDT

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    •  ok it wasn't illegal, (4+ / 0-)
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      Pam from Calif, BruceMcF, America08, TomP

      but it certainly was a fearful environment with the threat of getting your skull cracked by union busters, making it practically illegal.

      Eugene Debs, thrown in prison for 10 years in WW I for speaking out against recruiting drives.

      it feels like we are close to that again

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      by wade norris on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 12:43:18 PM PDT

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      •  Absolutely agree on the fear (2+ / 0-)
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        and in company towns, where a Ford or a Pullman owned everything including the cops, it was practically illegal.

        But Debs, FWIW, was put in prison by Wilson for fighting against American militarism (which he rightly saw as the bosses' ideology), not for organizing the IWW.  If he'd been some AFL craft union leader running around selling War Bonds, the government wouldn't have bothered him.  His big crime was really Socialism, not just generic unionism.  

        And, as it turned out, American institutional labor has never had a really glowing record in relation to Leftists within its ranks.

        "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

        by Pesto on Sat Sep 08, 2007 at 01:10:59 PM PDT

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