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  •  NO (3.66)
    This must not come from a partisan group.

    This must be broken in the press, or by a coalition of Dem/Rep. But since they haven't come forward by now, we must assume the cowards in Congress will not do their duty.

    Thus, the onus is on the FREE press to break this story.

    I adore MoveOn.org -- but they must not touch this until it is broken by a legitimate member of the 4th Column.

    If that column is still there.

    Maryscott O'Connor -- Rage, rage, against the lying of the Right.

    by Maryscott OConnor on Wed Jul 14, 2004 at 08:43:50 PM PDT

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    •  Please ... (none)
      The press is the Fourth Estate, not the Fourth Column. ("Fourth Column" has sinister overtones that we don't want.)
    •  partisan schmartisan (none)
      MoveOn is partisan, Sy Hersh is partisan -- the only people who aren't partisan are brain dead or autistic.

      "Thus, the onus is on the FREE press to break this story."

      The press in this country has always been partisan since before this was a country.  There is no such thing as "objectivity" when it comes to values.

      If you want to wait for the corporate press to go against its interests, you'll be waiting a long time.

      •  There's partisan and there's PARTISAN (none)
        MoveOn.org is clearly recognized by most people as a Democrat-oriented PAC-ish group.

        Hersh is a journalist; certainly his bias is clear, but he is part of the media -- corporate or not. When Hersh breaks a story, it breaks because of his renowned journalistic integrity. If Mo0veOn.org were to break it, just as if Moore had broken the original Torturegate, they would be ignored, mocked or vilified, just as Moore would have been.

        I think. Hell, I'm not claiming prescience here. It seems like common sense to me, however, to leave the breaking of a major fucking scandalous news story to a major fucking news outlet or individual.

        I'm not waiting for the SCLM/Corporate Media. I'm waiting for Hersh. I hope to god he comes through.

        Maryscott O'Connor -- Rage, rage, against the lying of the Right.

        by Maryscott OConnor on Thu Jul 15, 2004 at 06:50:16 PM PDT

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        •  hope is passivity (none)
          Don't hope, act.  MoveOn does, and they've been effective.  They don't leave it to someone else, and I'm damn glad they don't.  Ditto with Moore -- who would have made his film if he hadn't?  No one.

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