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  •  This is So Wounding (none)
    I think I'm pretty tough but I just could not do this thread in one sitting.  Had to go out and sit under a tree and ask....


    Please let us not let this go until some justice has been done.

    I kept thinking about women asking their men to come and kill them......

    I kept thinking of those kids screaming......

    I kept thinking of soldiers doing this and asking myself what manner of human does this....

    Who watches this done to a child and calmly tapes this..........

    What have we done?  What have we done?

    What in God's name have we done?

    You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can ALWAYS be honest.

    by mattman on Thu Jul 15, 2004 at 07:31:24 AM PDT

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    •  You're not alone -- (none)
      it's "personally" devastating in a way beyond anything we've so far seen or learned about the horrors behind the smirk.

      I've been asking the same questions.

      Mostly: how do we undo that which was done in our name?

      How fucking depraved must Bushit be to authorize such.  To see the consequences and not stop the tortures?  

      He has made no public renunciation of it.  And his comments have been couched in such a way that he appears to be skirting the issue; i.e., it continues.  And did you hear the tone in his voice when he said he never "ordered" turture?  Anger -- at those asking questions about it.  Petulant arrogance which says: if you don't shut up about it I'll do it to you.

      Honestly, we knew he is a petty, vindictive little prick.  And knew he is a sadist.  But in our wildest imaginings, did any of us arrive at the extreme assumption that he would be so depraved as to authorize -- and defend -- the use of torture?

      Who could imagine that would include rape and murder of adults, let alone of children.

      The Provance description of the 16-year-old boy -- wrists so thin the handcuffs wouldn't stay on -- is powerfully moving.  And at the same time compassionate and gentle.  Obviously, Provance has a greater degree of education -- is more consciously awake -- than many in the military, and especially among those who have been inflicting the tortures.

      Who, indeed, could film the rape of children as if such were normal, acceptable?

      A lie is halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain

      by jnagarya on Fri Jul 16, 2004 at 04:25:17 AM PDT

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