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  •  So lancet was wrong or is the 400k diff nitpickin (0+ / 0-)

    Which is it?

    And whilst we are at it all these claims about how far from murderous Sadamm's time was (one poster saying 190k over 40 years!) can only mean that the whole circus about how US sanctions had killed 500k plus Iraqi babies is also to be abandoned as well.

    BUt along with it will be murdered the memory of both the Anfal and 91 anti shia camapaigns - though maybe they will get mention when Rumsfeld is put in the dock, or Cheney - because of course the US was responsible for thsoe deaths as well, somehow.

    Things are quite bad enough - with 100 to 150k deaths- without engaging in the sort of absurd casualty inflation that partisans of both this poll and the lancet study are engaging in.

    I don't think it would be a stretch to say that no march organised by the majority of people on this thread will have so much as a single syllable to utter in condemnation of Moqtada Al Sadr, Al Queada in Iraq or Syria or Iran or Saudi Arabia's role in supporting sectarian factions in Iraq. The Sadrists and AQI have hardly been particularly secretive about their role in the deaths of many many Iraqi's. And there is not even a pretense that these have been incurred collaterally. But no - we won't mention those because of course it is the Coalition that is the sole or ultimate source and agent of all death, allowing even the torturer with his power drill halfway through the kidnapped child's arm to go and cash his blank check of Moral culpability issued by the bank of the Daily Kos - knowing that it is the soldiers who are trying to stop him who will get the blame.

    It does not require one to abandon righteous outrage at the incompetence, stubborness and arrogance of the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney and Bremer to be able to say that those resposnible, quite deliberately and openly and as a matter of strategy and policy, for most of the murder and mayhem in Iraq actually are agents who have made themsleves choices which they are morally culpable for.

    It is diaries like this one that make me say of this site - abandon hope all ye who enter there.

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