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  •  You get unit cohesiveness (7+ / 0-)

    by working and training together. You don't get it by making a obnoxious and coercive gang a unit unto themselves.

    Take a bunch of unrelated and varied people and put them together, teach them to trust and understand each other, and you've got MUCH better unit cohesiveness and competence than if you have a bunch of inflexible and holier-than-thou fundies.

    And the military has proven that time and time again - remember, they're the ones who proved that minorities could be integrated into the regular military, even when they weren't wanted there by ANYBODY.

    •  Actually, our military was integrated out of (0+ / 0-)

      necessity.  There was a police action on at the time--in Korea.

      The all-white divisions were suffering terrible casualties.  Although integration during wartime was a dangerous experiment, they had to grab their replacement troops from a fully-trained, all-black unit that was already over there.  

      After that, there was no going back.

      Quinctilius Varus, give me back my legions.

      by Ice Blue on Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 09:35:12 AM PDT

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    •  George Washington on "Unit Cohesiveness" (1+ / 0-)
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      enough already

      Here's what George Washington wrote to the Continental Congress in 1777 when a change in the Revolutionary army's chaplain system raised the possibility of religious disputes among the troops.

      "I shall order a return to be made of the Chaplains in Service, which shall be transmitted, as soon as it is obtained. At present, as the Regiments are greatly dispersed, part in one place and part in another, and accurate States of them have not been made, it will not be in my power to forward it immediately. I shall here take occasion to mention, that I communicated the Resolution, appointing a Brigade Chaplain in the place of all others, to the several Brigadiers; they are all of opinion, that it will be impossible for them to discharge the duty; that many inconveniences and much dissatisfaction will be the result, and that no Establishment appears so good in this instance as the Old One. Among many other weighty objections to the Measure, It has been suggested, that it has a tendency to introduce religious disputes into the Army, which above all things should be avoided, and in many instances would compel men to a mode of Worship which they do not profess. The old Establishment gives every Regiment an Opportunity of having a Chaplain of their own religious Sentiments, it is founded on a plan of a more generous toleration, and the choice of the Chaplains to officiate, has been generally in the Regiments. Supposing one Chaplain could do the duties of a Brigade, (which supposition However is inadmissible, when we view things in practice) that being composed of four or five, perhaps in some instances, Six Regiments, there might be so many different modes of Worship. I have mentioned the Opinion of the Officers and these hints to Congress upon this Subject; from a principle of duty and because cause I am well assured, it is most foreign to their wishes or intention to excite by any act, the smallest uneasiness and jealousy among the Troops."

      George Washington to the President of Congress, June 8, 1777, John C. Fitzpatrick, ed., The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources 1745-1799, vol. 8, (Washington D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1933), 203.

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