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  •  That's silly (1+ / 0-)
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    Do you really think keeping a Saturday Night Special in your Desk Drawer "protects you" from the Bush Administration?  These aren't the days when a Musket in the pantry helped ward off the Red Coat Troops....

    Gun Control isn't about that.  There are too many guns in the hands of Criminals and unstable people....like the nut job who killed all the Students at Va. Tech.

    Gun Control and Renewing The Brady Bill is a GOOD IDEA.

    The way you fight the Bush-Cheney Administration and the Wingnut Neocons is TO VOTE THEM OUT.

    •  i have never even fired a BB Gun let alone any (0+ / 0-)

      other weapon but i no longer favor gun control for others although i used to want all guns taken away from every citizen but this regime has radicalized my thinking while i personally will never own or ever touch a weapon i can't ask others to turn theirs in.

      •  Illogical... (1+ / 0-)
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        Keeping a gun in your home actually makes you less safe.  Do you really think keeping a pistol or rifle protects you or anyone against the government?  Maybe it would if you live in Tonga or Fiji, but not the United States.

        Safety and security come from an informed electorate that votes based on reason, compassion and knowledge.  In our democracy people who "are radicalized" should get out, organize, sign up voters, and vote out the Wingnuts.

        Simply sitting in your room, crouching in a corner and cuddling your gun will accomplish nothing.

        •  Go read up (0+ / 0-)

          on the gun seizures post-Katrina.

          Maybe you're comfortable with Blackwater roaming the streets, but I sure as hell ain't.

          George Bush does not like people.

          by aztecraingod on Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 09:56:22 AM PDT

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        •  I just want to point out (2+ / 0-)
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          it is entirely possible to own a gun safely. If you can follow basic safety rules for driving a car, you can follow basic safety rules for owning a gun. Accidents are very rare, and tend to be of the of the "Drunk Dick" type accidents, which are the result of grossly irresponsible and/or negligent behavior.

          "Equal rights for all, special privileges for none." ~~Thomas Jefferson~~

          by SaMx on Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 11:03:35 AM PDT

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          •  I am a gun owner (0+ / 0-)

            I have a shotgun that I use for skeet shooting.  I don not hunt.  I feel animals have it hard enought without me shooting at them.  

            Notwithstanding my gun ownership, is am a strong supporter of gun control.

            •  Like hiking? (0+ / 0-)

              Not sure where to start...

              Almost all the free services provided by the various state park services (trail maintenance, signage, etc.)are financed by hunting.  Want a toll booth at the trailhead?

              ALL of the game animal management at the state level is designed around a suddenly decreasing number of hunters.  Leading to silly solutions to problems we didn't used to have; like spending the entire state budget for parks and trails to helicopter hay to deer.

              Tucson is discovering that by deciding to ban predator hunting in the mountains around the city, that as far as mountain lions are concerned - humans are the other white meat.  So now they want to pay rangers to go hunt them.

              Your personal decisions aside, I find nothing inherently virtuous about hunting or not hunting; virtue is in how either decision is lived.

              And Florida has always been awash with rednecks and with guns.  The cities are the new feature, so not sure which is "ruining" your state.  Do know that NOBODY goes to a gun show and buys a machine gun.  While you can legally buy a machine gun in these United States, it is carefully regulated, ownership is carefully tracked and owners carefully vetted.  And NO legally owned machine gun has EVER been used in a crime.

              And to my knowledge I am the fifth generation to own guns without either shooting anyone else or ourselves.

              And my neighbor owns a tank, and you can too!  Perfectly legal.

    •  after we get a democrat in the whitehouse then (0+ / 0-)

      i can support gun control for others again I never will own a gun i have never even held a gun and i'm 44

      •  That is logically inconsistent (1+ / 0-)
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        redstatehatemonitor

        ....it is like saying, "When we get a Democrat in the White House, I'll support ending the Iraq War."  Either you believe in ending the war or not.  Either you believe in Gun Control or not.

        •  after i went to college in europe one summer (0+ / 0-)

          in 1992 i came back dedicated to hard core gun control i even favored that the govt take all hand guns, shot guns, hunting rifles , and even bb guns. In 1982 i even had a gun pulled on me by some dude who had road rage because i passed him up or some crazy reason and it scared me very much so i always hate guns but my view changed somewhat although i personally will never own a gun or fire a gun i think that it's better off left as is for now and just let local govt. or state govt. decide how they want to deal with the gun control issue in their own communities,

          It's pretty much a dead issue on the Federal level anyway because if the Virginia Tech massacre didn't gain any support for gun control i guess nothing will.

          •  Europe (1+ / 0-)
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            ...take a look at the murder rates there, in countrys where Gun Control is prevalent.  Per million people is it a miniscule number of the deaths here.

            I live in South Florida.  Here, where we had the "double dose of Bush" (George as President, Jeb as Governor) we have the "Shoot First" Law (really Neanderthal) and all those "Gun Shows" where anyone can buy guns....even machine guns...at the drop of a hat.

            Guns are destroying my state.

            I think you and I agree on most of this issue.  I stand with you on the point that our government is really scary at times.

            •  europe (0+ / 0-)

              isn't really a valid comparison, because the socioeconomic conditions are so different. If you look at how the crime rates have changed in European countries before and after they've enacted laws such as pistol bans, it's hard to say the laws changed anything at all. IMO the problem isn't that people in the US can own guns, it's that there are too many people in the US who want to kill people. And if they can get heroin, they can get a gun, regardless of the laws.

              I also have to point out that your statement about machine guns and gun shows is incorrect.

              "Equal rights for all, special privileges for none." ~~Thomas Jefferson~~

              by SaMx on Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 11:00:24 AM PDT

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            •  "Guns Shows" going on in 1970s (1+ / 0-)
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              Trial Lawyer Richard

              In my scuba club, a couple of people always went to gun shows to buy, sell or trade. I couldn't understand it then, and still don't.

              "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork" - Mae West

              by Harper on Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 11:26:09 AM PDT

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