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    "Chinese Academy of Environmental Planning"?
    The Environmental Planning in china ? Not so good .
    I would not put much weight on the "Chinese Academy"
    until I was shown that they are not a bad joke .

    If you read the reports from china
    dead rivers , deadly smog , etc etc etc .
    Aren't we lucky to be down wind / share a planet with china ?

    http://english.people.com.cn/...

    l'essentiel est invisible

    by indycam on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 03:28:54 PM PDT

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    •  Well, we got a free pass (0+ / 0-)

      when we were going through that phase of our industrial development.  China is sort of a developed and undeveloped nation at the same time.

      For one thing, although people usually get in a twist about it, the fact that the Chinese have limited the number of children they have has been a plus.  And they are currently doing new development with wind, solar & nuclear.  However, they are in real, real trouble with their water table and their rivers.  

      And I've got to say that 3 things about the Chinese make me nervous:

      1.  The growing size of their fleet of nuclear submarines
      1.  The fact that the US owes them a TON of money
      1.  The desperation that's going to happen when they run out of food due to the destruction of air, water, and land.  Desperate people do desperate things.

      The 2 NYT articles were very interesting, I thought.

      •  Label this snark (1+ / 0-)
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        "The fact that the US owes them a TON of money"
        A ton is an understatement .
        I say we sell them texas and or florida .
        If they buy texas and florida we give as a bonus,  detroit .

        l'essentiel est invisible

        by indycam on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 07:27:57 PM PDT

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