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  •  Here's David Brooks lamenting the funding scheme (3+ / 0-)
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    "This country will not be able to meet its fiscal promises", Brooks says.  Huh? Iraq?

    And it's fiscally cowardly to finance it through a tobacco tax.

    Thank god for E.J.Dionne: "I'm sure Brooks will get rid of all sales taxes now ..."  And Dionne points out that the funding scheme came from the Republican Senators, not the Democrats.

    You kids behave or I'm turning this universe around RIGHT NOW! - god

    by Clem Yeobright on Thu Oct 04, 2007 at 05:49:16 AM PDT

    •  I have to admit (3+ / 0-)
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      I do think tying this or any other program as vital as this one to a tobacco tax is a big mistake.  The whole point of raising cigerrette prices is that it motivates people to quit smoking, so your basically basing funding of vital legislation to a revenue resource that's designed to decrease year by year.  Makes no sense.

      ...honor is a harder master than the law. It cannot compromise for less than 100 cents on the dollar and its debts never outlaw. - Mark Twain, a Biography

      by billd on Thu Oct 04, 2007 at 05:56:24 AM PDT

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      •  gets it passed (4+ / 0-)
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        and if (big if) people stop smoking, fund it differently with more D votes for a less regressive system.

        keep in mind as well that perfect bills don't pass.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Thu Oct 04, 2007 at 06:00:51 AM PDT

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        •  I see your point (1+ / 0-)
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          People are quitting smoking though, it's been a consistant downturn over the last 25 years.  CDC research is a couple years old, but the last study showed a 1 million person drop in smokers between '93 and '94 for instance.  Maybe the funding can get changed later on, but it just doesn't seem too smart to me to tie it to a funding source you already know is drying up year by year.  Smaller, less vital program, sure.  But not something like this.  Just my opinion. <shrug>

          ...honor is a harder master than the law. It cannot compromise for less than 100 cents on the dollar and its debts never outlaw. - Mark Twain, a Biography

          by billd on Thu Oct 04, 2007 at 06:08:54 AM PDT

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      •  It's what the Rs would sign on to (2+ / 0-)
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        It's not like there is rationality to be appealed to. We're talking Orin Hatch here, people!

        You kids behave or I'm turning this universe around RIGHT NOW! - god

        by Clem Yeobright on Thu Oct 04, 2007 at 06:10:52 AM PDT

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    •  So how is Iraq funded? (2+ / 0-)
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      Okay I had it with these right wing moonbats like Brooks.  So, they don't like the funding for SCHIP.
      But at least it is funded.  Explain to me, Mr. Brooks, how is Iraq being funded?  I think it's time for a war tax - send the first bill to David Brooks.

    •  Wasn't David the one one PBS yesterday (1+ / 0-)
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      decrying the increased tobacco tax for hurting the poor?  The spiel ran something like smoking is inversely related to educational level so most smokers are HS graduates at most.  To tax smoking unfairly targets the poor so why not tax something that will hit more at the higher classes, such as wine or other high class commodities.

      Evidently the effete elite has never heard of Thunderbird or Bulldog.  Wine is the drink of choice of the underclasses. Unless you are never around any of the sort I guess which makes Brooks' concern ring hollow.  

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