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  •  Too Judgemental, Too Angry (0+ / 0-)

    The consequences of Columbus's voyages to the 'New World' were terrible for the inhabitants. His culture was so different, though, I wonder if it's right to be so judgmental.  White Rabbit takes such a superior attitude that it makes me stop and think.

    I've read that there was no criticism of slavery anywhere in the world before the 1700's.  If this is wrong, please cite the reference, as I've been relying on this information.  Columbus and his society were about as primitive as the Indians they enslaved.  Granted, Europe had better ships and guns.  And left us written records, which the North American Natives did not.  But still, how was Columbus to know the Indians were "Human"?

    What definition of "Human" was available to him?  By and large, there was no science anywhere. But slavery was universal and must have seemed quite normal.  I don't know of anything that would have told Columbus that slavery was wrong.

    And let us not forget the violence of the Indians to each other.  Human sacrifice to the Aztec and cannibalism in the Pueblos of the Southwest must open our minds to the possibility that the residents of Hispaniola were as violent as anybody else.

    I can see why Native Americans would not want to celebrate Columbus Day, but I have a hard time swallowing the attitude of moral superiority.

    Crimes against Humanity?  You have to have moral knowledge to be morally liable, and Columbus didn't have that knowledge.  Ignorance of the law is, of course, no excuse.  But that's just the point, there was no law.

    •  He had the bible... (0+ / 0-)

      He just chose to read the worst parts and believe those over the best. Like this one he should have read more.

      (Matthew 23:15):

      Woe to you,---You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when one becomes one, you make him twice the son of hell as you are.

      As for the moral critique:
      Not even this Draft made it to the vote.

      http://www.unhchr.ch/...
      DRAFT UNITED NATIONS DECLARATION ON THE RIGHTS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES

      Affirming that indigenous peoples are equal in dignity and rights to all other peoples, while recognizing the right of all peoples to be different, to consider themselves different, and to be respected as such,

      Affirming also that all peoples contribute to the diversity and richness of civilizations and cultures, which constitute the common heritage of humankind,

      Affirming further that all doctrines, policies and practices based on or advocating superiority of peoples or individuals on the basis of national origin, racial, religious, ethnic or cultural differences are racist, scientifically false, legally invalid, morally condemnable and socially unjust,

      Reaffirming also that indigenous peoples, in the exercise of their rights, should be free from discrimination of any kind,

      Look again at this part:

      Affirming further that all doctrines, policies and practices based on or advocating superiority of peoples or individuals on the basis of national origin, racial, religious, ethnic or cultural differences are racist, scientifically false, legally invalid, morally condemnable and socially unjust,

      It is morally condemnable, even though this never made it through, and the U.S. voted against the final watered down draft to me, regardless of what Bush said.

      She nourishes us; that which we put into the ground she returns to us. Big Thunder

      by Winter Rabbit on Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 02:21:17 PM PDT

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