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  •  I have a question (1+ / 0-)
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    dskinner

    and would love for Geek and Dave Misner to answer if you two have time...and please anyone else chime in too.
    Looking at this from another prospective, one of the reasons Hillary is an insider is because she is an insider.
    Make sense?
    In other words, her husband was a governor for many years, then she was in the White House for 8 years and since then has been a senator in New York.
    Who else would she be associated with?
    Washington insiders, mainly because of her and her husbands public service to this country.
    As an analogy, I hang out with my daughters friends mom's. I spend the vast majority of my time with my daughters, her friends spend the night, school functions etc. so I would be considered a "daughter insider".
    Others on here probably spend the vast majority of their time with co-workers or family.
    Just like Hillary spends the vast majority of her time with Washington people.
    Edwards on the other hand was a one term senator and not well liked at that (according to the diarist). So he wouldn't be hanging around the Washington insiders.
    Thoughts?

    •  Outside the semantics (2+ / 0-)
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      FightTheFuture, planetclaire4

       The fundamental question is whether we can effect transformational change or only nibble at the margins.  In my view - most elections are tiptoeing around the edges - the nature of our system pushes politicians back to a "centrist" [for lack of a better term] view.

       However - every once in a while something big roils the electorate and big change happens - i.e. 1932 - or 1980.  In my view this is such a moment. There is disgust with the slick, mass marketed, say one thing do another world of DC lobbyists and polilticians that we are ready to change - HRC is beholden to the monied interests of stay the same - Edwards is not.

       So  - there is this huge difference between them.  It is more than semantics - it is a world view.  Do you want much the same - or are you ready for American greatness to bloom once more -

    •  Edwards spent time on UNC poverty center programs (1+ / 0-)
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      Boxer7

      As part of that work, he traveled the country meeting anti-poverty activists, clients in poverty centers who were struggling to earn a living, union people on picket lines. In short, Edwards was associating with people who are pretty far left, and he has moved that way too. As pointed out, during the same time, Hillary was associating with Washington insiders. As for Bill Clinton, there's a reason why his work on behalf of tsunami victims in Indonesia received so much more coverage than his work on behalf of Katrina victims in the U.S. I get it that poor people in the U.S. aren't as poor as those in Africa, but there does seem to be a bit of a disconnect. Why is it so much easier for Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, et al. to talk about poverty abroad than about poverty at home? Cynics say that Edwards' commitment to ending poverty in the U.S. is purely rhetorical, but we need rhetoric on the subject--and we aren't getting much of it on the Middle Class Express.  

      •  In part - because for the insiders (1+ / 0-)
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        planetclaire4

         this is compassion - making a big show of helping others - talking big, doing concerts, taking your cut, and not actually making a difference.  But - seeming to show your care.  It is the world of glitz and marketing - but one which is essentially hollow.

        Edwards holds up that view to actual inspection - is it any wonder they fear him so.

      •  Africans (1+ / 0-)
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        planetclaire4

        as a rule are very self sufficient and the land is bountiful. It is the richest continent in the world in many ways. It's just that it's being systematically looted by the US and Europe and their puppets.

        The epidemic of malaria doesn't help but it could be overcome with good public health programmes.

        My novel is full of sex, drink, incest, suicides, dope, horseracing, murder, scandalous legal procedure and ends with a good public hanging--attended by 30,000

        by Salo on Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 12:30:56 PM PDT

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