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  •  isnt most of the defense budget basically pork? (14+ / 0-)

    which weapons do we really need to defend ourselves?

    who can attack the USA?

    •  You bet there is a lot of pork (2+ / 0-)
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      in the defense budget.  

      "Sometimes I wish I could change my nickname" Me

      by givemhellHarryR on Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 09:45:58 PM PDT

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    •  I guess they took those WWII ads about saving (1+ / 0-)
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      bacon drippings so that they could be used to make munitions a bit too seriously!

    •  Weapons (0+ / 0-)

      Which weapons do we really need to defend ourselves?

      The most powerful weapons we have are our minds.

    •  who would attack the US? (1+ / 0-)
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      on the one hand, we need a certain amount/number/types of arms in order to frighten other countries from attacking us here at home. for instance, knowing that we have nukes, no 3rd world nation should attack us because we can strike so hard that they'd be hard-pressed to defeat us.

      but on the other hand, who the hell would bother invading us? there are so many more effective ways for other countries to get what they want.

      "Does the [Iraq war] make America safer?" --Senator John Warner "I don't know, actually." -- General David Petraeus, in his testimony before the Senate

      by jsepeta on Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 11:17:08 PM PDT

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    •  Lots of people (1+ / 0-)
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      can attack. No, they aren't a threat to our existence, but they can cause a lot of damage, as we saw on 9/11/2001.

      Weapons aren't necessarily what we need. There are other ways the government can (and does) spend money on defense and security.

    •  Now they even manufacture our enemies for us (0+ / 0-)

      Thr Pentagon is a sacred cow that must be fed with blood. Any enemy will do just eggsagerate the threat it might pose.

      "We would cause tyrants in the Middle East to laugh at our failed resolve" - G.W.Bush So we're staying in Iraq so Duhbya doesn't get laughed at?!

      by Lefty Coaster on Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 12:04:29 AM PDT

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    •  just about all of it... (1+ / 0-)
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      I'll never forget my awful stint working at a DOD base.  They were going to send me to live 3 states away for many months in a hotel.  This was so i could work in a "contractors lab".  The lab being the basement of a used furniture store.  The base I worked on had plenty of far superior labs to do the testing, but the government was going to pay for me to live in a hotel for months and months so I could work in this used furniture store basement "lab" that was being leased to the DOD for OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.  This was happening so some 2 bit defense contractor who had a buddy in congress wouldn't go out of business.

      He should've been out of business - instead he was getting millions to lease out a worthless lab.

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