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  •  Something that cant just be slowed (3+ / 0-)
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    it has to be stopped cold.  Once the mountain is gone it isn't going to come back.  At least not for thousands of years.  Its ridiculous the people that see the profit on one side and lack the vision to see the future loss of profit on the other, if speaking purely in monetary terms.  Which is all some people understand.  You start talking about species loss and their eyes glaze over.  You talk about recreational dollars and the livelihood of an area, not just the specific plot of land but all that around it, and it will help put a stop to it.  You have to get to the local councilmen and convince them that some mining company coming in and raping their land for temporary profit is not in their long term best interest.  People have to see it happening which is why I like seeing diaries like this. Id rather see it on 60 minutes (and maybe I just missed it)  

    In Florida, and obviously this is off topic, but we have a problem in North Florida with the South wanting to siphon off our water.  They have wanted it since I was a kid.  Atlanta is complaining about having to release water from their area lakes to flow downstream to our rivers.  The issue isn't just about drinking water, nor is it about endangered species (which is all it takes for me to say we need to do something).  Its about scenery, the land, the recreational use of that land and the tourism of all the areas in between.  The vital ecosystems that help keep bugs alive and thriving that are important to our farms.  Its not just some wasted natural habitat that doesn't serve the profit of others.  Its actually critical to profit but it doesn't show up readily on a balance sheet. Its about more important things but its those things, the business side of things, that will make the important swing votes that help people understand that we need to conserve more, need to pursue desalination, need to change the neighborhood association practices of requiring perfect lawns, need to convince people to stop having so many children (because the Earth cannot support so many without harm to other things that are important).  Whats going to happen is we are going to first use up all of the natural fresh water supplies at the cost of species and ecosystems as well as recreation and be left with the only other alternatives which we could have pursued before doing all the damage.  Whats going to happen is that eventually companies are going to lay waste to the countryside in pursuit of profit and be left with nothing.  The cost of oil makes some think that mining shale for oil is the way to go but take a wild guess what that entails.  We have to say no and while we try to convince others we also have to individually do all we can to make it unnecessary, not profitable.

    I'm a Second Amendment Liberal...and anyone that isn't has a pre-Bush mentality. It can happen here.

    by jrflorida on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 11:26:04 AM PDT

    •  Talk about recreation doesn't always do it (2+ / 0-)
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      Couple of years ago, Rick Boucher commissioned a panel to study possibility of making High Knob a National Recreation Area.
      The study was never completed. Out came the Wise Use Terrorists, and they totally broke up meetings with their "steal your land and raise your taxes, and fence you out" lies.
      Encouragingly, all the Supervisors who were again'it were booted out in the election following the Donnybrook.

      Virginia Wilderness Bill passes House! Thanks for the help, kossacks!

      by emmasnacker on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 01:59:18 PM PDT

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      •  Watching this happen (2+ / 0-)

        Right in my own neighborhood.

        A proposal to extend a "scenic highway" designation to a road that winds through the hills here was stomped by flyers mailed and "protesters" shipped in by developers to tell people that they wouldn't be able to touch anything, that they're land would be worthless.  They even told farmers that they'd have to let their barns decay and wouldn't be able to repair items on their grounds because the rubble and vines was considered "more scenic."

        It got voted down by people who were absolutely convinced that people were out to "tell them what they could do with their land."  Right on the heels of that, huge billboards went up along the proposed "scenic route."

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