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  •  interesting, same treatment in log cabins here. (7+ / 0-)

    But how much of the woodwork will be exposed?  

    •  exposed wood (4+ / 0-)
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      the vertical faces, inside and out, and the bottom, what isn't covered by the window unit. The finished window frame will be set right up against the underside of the lintel. Plaster/stucco will frame the  lintel.

      don't always believe what you think...

      by claude on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 06:26:12 AM PDT

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      •  Two words just two words: Chain and Saw (3+ / 0-)
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        You like to do it the hard way, don't you? Is this the way youre doing all the wood in the house?

        I'm real curious--how cost effective is building this way compared to stick building?

        " You don't need to be an icthyologist to know when a rotten fish stinks." Daniel Ellsberg, from "Secrets"

        by exlrrp on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 06:43:14 AM PDT

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        •  those details are costly (6+ / 0-)

          and are done for aesthetic reasons.

          Stick construction is less expensive, but you get what you pay for.  In this climate, the slight extra cost is more than offset, long term, by the thermal efficiency of mass construction.

          Adobe in the plain vanilla format can be cost effective.

          don't always believe what you think...

          by claude on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 07:29:59 AM PDT

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          •  Do you parge it afterwards? (3+ / 0-)
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            In the early 80s, I was a member of an alternative buiding society, basically exploring alternative building techniques.

            The society actually built a rammed earth house which is really similar to what youre building.

            The foundation was massive to carry the weight and the house had vertical and horizontal bond  beams like you describe.

            At the end, they parged it---stuccoed it--to keep the rain from washing it away. Are you doing this also?

            Figuring all the design features the local building department imposed on this project, it wasn't as cost effective as stick building and took consderably longer to build--is this the same with you?

            better get a gopod plan from the start---look slike a real; buitch to remodel.

            Thanks for this post!! Tipped and rec'd!

            " You don't need to be an icthyologist to know when a rotten fish stinks." Daniel Ellsberg, from "Secrets"

            by exlrrp on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 08:11:13 AM PDT

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            •  exterior treatment (3+ / 0-)
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              will be 2 inches of sprayed on foam insualtion and then stucco 3 coat.

              While this house has almost no solar components to its design, this type of construction, coupled with good passive solar design will result in very low fuel requirements over the lifetime of the house, which will be centuries, if the roof is maintained.

              The the somewhat higher initial costs are more than mitigated by the long term energy use benefits, even not being a solar design.

              In this particular neighborhood, in this particular small city, highly desirable, this house will be worth more than it costs to build it.

              don't always believe what you think...

              by claude on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 11:06:33 AM PDT

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        •  In the first photos (6+ / 0-)

          you can see that we are taking already sawn timbers and "rusticating" them. Preacher hewing, in the later photo is from a few years ago, on another project where no expense was spared.

          Yes, here in New Mexico, we have chainsaws, they come in on the wagon trains that come down the Santa Fe Trail.

          don't always believe what you think...

          by claude on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 07:59:12 AM PDT

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          •  Up here they come in on the Oregon Trail ;-) (4+ / 0-)
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            I have three but the only one to have is a Stihl--the Cadilllac of chain saws

            " You don't need to be an icthyologist to know when a rotten fish stinks." Daniel Ellsberg, from "Secrets"

            by exlrrp on Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 08:13:18 AM PDT

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