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  •  Damn right (1+ / 0-)
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    Here's the reasonwhy US companies are going after high skilled foreign workers. Change that and you won't need a H1B program. But as long as we have a shortage of scientists and engineers who can do the work Microsoft and Intel needs them to do, we have no choice but to recruit foreign talent. More hate mongering from Lou "Leprosy" Dobbs and this diarist will only make things worse for the US economy with MS and Google opening offices in Canada and India, with GM opening research centers in China.

    •  that ignores (4+ / 0-)

      the reality that US universities are the best in the world with Americans possessing those credentials and more importantly, patents.

      by BobOak on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:56:06 PM PDT

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      •  and that ignores.. (1+ / 0-)
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        the fact that one of the reasons that US universities are the best in the world is that

        they intake the best students/researchers not only from the US but from all over the world.

        (encouragement of innovation and funding/investment in R&D being the other important reasons). Take a look at either Academia or Industry(R&D):

        in STEM, there is significant percentage of foreigners or foreign-born people.

        Again, as far as peer-reviewed publications go, you'll find the same trend. Innovation and technological leadership is a consequence of the "American approach" and not "American citizens". Lastly, I don't think you can substantiate your claims that

        ...with Americans possessing those credentials and more importantly, patents.

        10-30% of the people involved in STEM R&D are foreigners/foreign-born, do you sincerely expect us to believe that all innovation/patents is the exclusive forte of just Americans?

    •  Say that I take your premise as true (3+ / 0-)
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      dkmich, BobOak, uscitizenvoter

      In fact it is not true as the largest users of the H1B program is Indian offshoring companies, which are not in fact 'US' companies at all. Additionally the H1B visa is a non-immigrant guest worker visa.

      But say that I take your premise as being true and 'Microsoft and Intel needs them'.

      Change that and you won't need a H1B program.

      Why, if I am Microsoft or Intel and, I can pay a person with a bachelors degree from India $53,000 to do what I 'need them to do', (the what of which I find it fascinating that the pro-H1B/L1 guest-worker crowd generally have no idea of) and I can keep that person in what is essentially the role of an indentured servant for the first six years, and keep them as a house boy for as much as six or seven more, why would I ever want to change that?

      By the way, look at the same report for 2000 thru 2004 the number of H1B's with a bachelors degree or less was 50% or greater, and the median salaries were, as I remember, $46,000.

      It is only because a bunch of people who actually helped invent the term 'information super-highway' and unlike Dianne Feinstein really know what that term means, have these numbers started to change.

      <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

      by superscalar on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 07:08:27 PM PDT

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    •   good schools (2+ / 0-)
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      dkmich, BobOak

      Maybe those are the types of public schools you attended, but in Minnesota, where I grew up, we had very good public schools.  It seemed strange to us as to why someone would pay extra to go to a private or parochial school for a quality education.

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