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  •  Tibbets had a job to do (10+ / 0-)

      and he did it. He saved millions of lives by dropping that bomb, and avoiding an invasion of Japan by American forces...in which it was estimated that up to 1 million American lives would be lost. Not counting the millions of Japanese that would also die.

      Those arguing that we should never have dropped the bomb have NEVER been able to counter that argument. Truman gave the correct order, and Tibbets carried it out well. Godspeed Colonel Tibbets!! We owe you a debt of gratitude!!!!

    •  Have you ever discussed it with anyone (1+ / 0-)
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      of the opinion that the Soviet Union's repudiation Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact in April 1945 and declaring war on Japan might have had a lot to do with ending the war.  Maybe even more than the Atomic bombs, or even the fire-bombing of Tokyo that killed more people than the A-bomb?

      I don't know exactly what made the Japanese surrender.  But I know it was complicated.  And I also don't forget the damage done by the fire-bombing. How can you say conclusively that it was "the" bomb?

      dubya dubya dubya dot liar dot con

      by TexH on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 04:26:13 PM PDT

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      •  I have (7+ / 0-)

          actually. And its nonsense. Had we not dropped the bomb on Japan, hell, had we simply walked away (impossible given the situation, but lets just say), the Soviets would've picked up, and continued the war. We then would have had to deal with a USSR furious that their "allies" weren't helping them and witnessing their slaughter of the Japanese people.
          Either way, the bomb stopped EVERYONE. It stopped the Japanese, who were forced to surrender. It saved many American and Japanese lives from the potential invasion. It also showed Stalin that he damn well better not invade after the war was over.

          The bomb was the correct decision, though also a tragic one. Anyone saying that Truman could have and should have found another way to end the war either don't know the facts, or don't care about the facts.  

        •  So your saying (0+ / 0-)

          The Soviet invasion of Manchuria in August 1945 had nothing to do with it.  I think it was a little of both, really.  The bomb stunned everyone, sure, but Japan was also looking at a massive Soviet invasion, too.  And do you really support your argument by the insane "what if" we walked away?  C'mon.

          dubya dubya dubya dot liar dot con

          by TexH on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 04:50:35 PM PDT

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          •  IIRC, the Soviets made the decision to enter the (1+ / 0-)
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            war against Japan at the Potsdam Conference, at the urging of Truman and Churchill/Atlee.  The Soviets had argued previously that they were too tied down in Europe to fight against Japan.

            The split with the USSR was just beginning in the summer of 1945.  Don't confuse 1948 with 1945.

            "It's hip to be miserable when you're young and intellectual."--Carly Simon

            by Buckeye Terry on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 04:56:41 PM PDT

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            •  actually i think (0+ / 0-)

              The Soviets agreed at the Yalta Conference in early '45.  That agreement was used to bolster the Postdam Declaration in the Summer of 1945 laying out surrender terms.

              dubya dubya dubya dot liar dot con

              by TexH on Thu Nov 01, 2007 at 05:09:01 PM PDT

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