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  •  It *is* a holocaust, just not the Jew or Slave (0+ / 0-)

    Or even the Cambodian.  I don't see what's so offensive about calling Abortion a holocaust.  Too many lives have been lost, swept away.  It is a form of genocide, particularly when it strikes certain ethnicities and income groups harder than others... and was always intended to.

    Jimmy Carter was right on point when he said, a couple years ago, that the focus should be on making abortion unnecessary while keeping it legal.  There are WAY too many abortions occuring, the majority of which are for convenience.  Abortion should be a last resort, not a form of contraception.  When women are having more than one abortion, it's a form of contraception.  Something is very, very wrong.

    Besides, babies (or the fetus, if you prefer) feel pain.  The methods used to kill that fetus, that baby, that child, are inhumane.  And now medical experiments are being proposed for their corpses.  Children in the womb can't speak for themselves.  It's fine to keep abortion legal and safe for the mother who chooses to kill her child.  That's fine.  Why should she die as well, or become permanently sterile, because of bad medicine and bad medical practices?

    More focus on preventing women from being in that position -- the position of choosing to kill her child -- in the first place.  

    •  If one's worldview includes "things happen for a (1+ / 0-)
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      reason" -- then it's easier to feel that's it's reasonable to believe a pregnant woman has an obligation to the potential person growing inside her -- even if this means it puts a greater burden upon women than men. Either: life is often unfair, but you have to deal. Or: You were born a fertile woman for a reason. It also puts a greater burden on poor families (who have less economic resources to devote to medical needs of pregnancy and growing children) than rich families (who have more resources and/or abortion care options). Me, I think my biological sex was a coin toss.

      It's a quirk of nature (actually, nature's manipulations) to hook sexual pleasure with procreation. Too much of what you write seems to want society to enforce nature's opportunism & sexism, and doesn't account for BC failure. My pregnancy happened because my IUD failed -- early, so the fetus wasn't developed enough to feel pain.

      Right now, I don't agree with nature: we're way past earth's carrying capacity and nature's agenda of "more, more offspring" is making the situation worse.

      If your local service workers don't get a living wage (including healthcare) then your local social contract is broken

      by julifolo on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 07:06:38 AM PST

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    •  No it isn't (0+ / 0-)

      The government is not engaging in genocide.

      "It's the planet, stupid."

      by FishOutofWater on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 02:06:25 PM PST

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    •  Respectfully Disagree (1+ / 0-)
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      According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the definition of genocide is:

      gen·o·cide       (jěn'ə-sīd')  Pronunciation Key
      n.   The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

      [Greek genos, race; see genə- in Indo-European roots + -cide.]

      I don't see how legal abortion fits this definition.

      Also, your argument about fetal pain isn't backed up by facts. Britain's Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists did a study on this topic, and came to the official position that a fetus cannot experience pain until 26 weeks because nerves and brain structures aren't sufficiently developed until that time. (See Article from www.womensnews.org ). According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, 9 in 10 abortions in the U.S. occur within the first 12 weeks of gestation.

      I find it quite offensive that you compare abortion to the Holocaust, slavery, or to any other genocide. I don't understand how you can possibly compare the incalculable torture and suffering of so many to the abortion of a fetus.

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