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  •  Seriously (4+ / 0-)
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    vcmvo2, KenBee, Skulnick, Tybalt

    the "perfect" person doesn't exist, so you might as well be prepared to march every single person in the world through the streets with a shaved head and wearing an orange jumpsuit.

    •  I'm Not Asking for Perfection (0+ / 0-)

      The question of making common cause with torture apologists and promoters is quite clear to me as a bright line issue.

      Apparently you have a more flexible view about maintaining friendly relations with torturers, torture apologists, and torture promoters.

      Allies of necessity should never be confused with friends or leaders.

      •  Yeah, you are asking for perfection (6+ / 0-)

        because apparently all of Schumer's work to help end the war, to provide insurance for everyone, to give us a progressive Senate are all for naught because he decided to vote for Mukasey on issues NOT having to do with torture (civil rights and the politicization of the justice department).

        I disagree with the vote, and obviously you do. Fine. The difference between you and me is that I'm not ready to jettison the entire progressive agenda in spiteful protest over that vote.

        There's a bigger picture at stake, no matter how obnoxious that single vote might be.

        •  Schumer is Solidly Center-Right, not Progressive (1+ / 0-)
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          ....and his claim that he voted for Mukasey because issues other than torture trump the torture issue is not remotely credible.

          Schumer voted for the AUMF and he voted for Kyl-Lieberman. The claim that he is a meaningful opponent of this war is similarly lacking in credibility. Any claim to the contrary is tendentious cherry-picking and insubstantial hype.

          His vote for torture is of a piece with his support for the AUMF, his support for Kyl-Lieberman, his support for extrajudicial assassination, his vote for the Patriot Act, his support for the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and his support for the Israeli use of cluster bombs against civilian populations.

          You're right that there's a bigger picture at stake, but wrong about it being a matter of a single vote.

          Schumer stands in the same relation to the worst elements of the Likud and Kadima and their sympathizers among American voters as Trent Lott stands in relation to the worst elements of Mississippi's Concerned Citizens Council and the Klan and their sympathizers among American voters.

          That's the big picture, and it's a shameful spectacle to see decent people turning backflips to maintain their denial.

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