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  •  we don't need to elect scientists (18+ / 0-)

    we need to elect people smart enough to listen to them. Like Gore.

    •  you're right (6+ / 0-)

      One of the few republicans I have any respect for was one who did listen to scientists and took great pride in it; Sherwood Boehlert of NY.  While he was wrong on many things, he was one you could actually listen to without throwing up.  We need more like him and fewer like james inhofe.  Democrats do tend to listen to scientists, but in order to get anything done they need help.

      One question I've always had is why do creationist republicans listen so reverently to geologists when they talk about oil deposits but ignore them when they talk about fossils and the age of the earth?  

      A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

      by dougymi on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 03:51:42 PM PST

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      •  One I don't give credit for much other than ... (3+ / 0-)
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        recognizing the facts on the energy issue is Roscoe Bartlett of Maryland.  He's very right-wing on most things, but he's also an engineer by training and is convinced that we desperately need to get far more serious about getting off our fossil energy (and especially oil) habit.  And I'll give the guy credit; he puts his money where his mouth is.  He and his wife both drive Priuses, and I've heard that he has a vacation home in West Virginia that's completely off the electric grid and powered exclusively by wind and photo-voltaic panels.

        He's voted against drilling in ANWR, not so much because of the environmental consequences, but because that's probably the last major unexploited oil field in the United States, and he thinks we need to conserve it for when we REALLY need it, rather than pumping the oil out now when it would just temporarily reduce prices and therefore encourage us to delay taking the steps that we really need to take.

        "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

        by leevank on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 04:43:27 PM PST

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        •  A very cogent arguement (0+ / 0-)

          I've long thought that myself. I'll have to read more about him.  Thanks!

          A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

          by dougymi on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 04:49:20 PM PST

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        •  Read Bartletts speech on the hous floor last week (1+ / 0-)
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          here

          I've read it three times now . . why? Because it the first slice of truth and facts I've read in years coming from a politician. This speech never made it to mainstream media, yet every american ought to have been informed of everything he says years ago.

          We are not going to be able to fill the gap in time . . not if we have to wait yet another year before someone willing to genuinely lead us out of this crisis is POSSIBLY elected.

          "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God" -8.13/-7.03

          by donailin on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 05:38:15 PM PST

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