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  •  to be clear (2+ / 0-)
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    Happy Days, psilocynic

    to be clear, I agree negative campaiging is terrible for a nation, but it is beyond the candidates to fix it.

    What must be done is simply

    1. Mandate public money and public money for campaigning.
    1. Do not allow any campaign to mention or refer to their opponent in any ad.

    that is where we start, easily done, but will never happen, because beneath the surface, this is one nasty nation.

    Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

    by pissedpatriot on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 01:03:02 PM PST

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    •  bullshit (1+ / 0-)
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      each candidate has a choice. They all started out on the dem side saying they would run a positive campaign. The trial lawyer just couldn't resist, though, and Obama has been a republican talking points plant from the git-go.

      •  they dont have a choice (0+ / 0-)

        the choice is either play american politics as it is in 2007, or go home a loser.  Negative is what works, in a perfect world this wouldnt be so, but this country is nowhere near perfect.

        Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

        by pissedpatriot on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 01:06:56 PM PST

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      •  Bullshit? (0+ / 0-)

        I dunno, that sounds like pretty negative discourse to me.

        •  yepp (1+ / 0-)
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          I was laughing when I wrote it. And wondered who would catch me out? I ain't saying it is easy. But if I can do it--anyone can:)

          •  That's why I don't even try! (0+ / 0-)

            Taking the anger out of poltics is way too hard for me. But I respect you making the effort.  ;)

            •  hey I am plenty angry (0+ / 0-)

              I don't think there is anything wrong with anger or even tough talk. Or taking one's opponent to the mat with facts and real information. What is going to hurt us so bad come the general election is the mud slinging the dems are doing now. Hillary is unstoppable. Obama and Edwards are only hurting us by sliming her now. And they are sliming. Edwards in good trial lawyer "gotcha" fashion and Obama by reciting republican talking points.

              •  Honestly, I get it now (0+ / 0-)

                This smacks of a Hillary supporter that's tired of her being picked on. I get that, it's a bitch being the leader.

                I just didn't realize it until you dropped the word "unstoppable".

                •  ??? (0+ / 0-)

                  I honestly don't know what you are talking about? But the cynicm is breathtaking. Do I have to be angling for something here? I can't believe the negative campaigning is wrong, self-defeating and in the long run only feeding the right?

                  •  My point is (0+ / 0-)

                    That I took a look at your diary and posting history to try to understand where you are coming from. It's clear you are a Hillary supporter, and you don't practice what you preach, even SHORTLY after you wrote this diary.

                    You know, stones and glass houses and such.

                    •  I give up here (0+ / 0-)

                      Yes. I support Hillary. This post was not about Hillary specifically. It is about negative campaigning. If I was defending Hillary specifically I would have used a wealth of examples about the negative campaigning against her. But that is not the point. The point is negative campaigning and the way it aids the Right. Richardson is not negatively campaigning and I don't think Kucinich is either. Both of these guys are sticking to the issues. They get it. And Hillary gets it too. Guess who doesn't? But I am not mentioning them all that much either. Because nobody specifically is the point. The point is negative campaigning. Is that clear enough. And if it isn't, I give up.

      •  16 minutes 47 seconds (0+ / 0-)

        You posted your diary at 03:48:24 PM EST and you went negative at 04:05:11 PM EST. It took you just 16 minutes 47 seconds to go negative.

        Could you just not resist, or were you a Republican talking points plant from the git-go?

        Priez mes frères
        Condamner la guerre
        Qui brûle aux quatre coins de la terre

        by dconrad on Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 04:11:01 PM PST

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