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  •  I agree with Kos about interactive polls but (1+ / 0-)
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    my question concerns what his "real world" is. I imagine my real world is a great deal different than your real world. My world doesn't brush elbows with "the elite". I brush elbows with unemployed and poor people who probably never deal with anyone who goes on talk shows. Is that the real world Kos is referring to?

    You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war..... Albert Einstein,

    by tazz on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 07:23:57 AM PST

    •  My real world (7+ / 0-)

      works with college students at a community college...and uses Zogby Interactive as an example of how screwed up statistics and polls can be if used poorly.

      Novel? What novel? Oh...that novel...

      by kredwyn on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 07:34:51 AM PST

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      •  My real world is rural (1+ / 0-)
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        Which is as close to being dead to the rest of the country.

        When war is considered to be more noble than peace - we have lost everything.

        by feloneouscat on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 07:48:59 AM PST

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        •  My aunt lives in your real world... (1+ / 0-)
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          and I wish I could go back to live in that world. I miss it.

          Novel? What novel? Oh...that novel...

          by kredwyn on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 07:54:49 AM PST

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          •  Well there is good and bad in EVERY world (2+ / 0-)
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            Rural land seems nice until:

            1. You have to shut down ALL the computers when there is lightening for fear of geting a system trashed. At 3 AM this really sucks.
            1. Getting up to feed the horses, sheep, and llama in the winter in the dark bites.
            1. Internet service. Why the hell can I not get freaking cable? I'm 4 miles from the last bit of cable. Cox, I'm looking at YOU!
            1. Toxins in the enviro. Nothing makes you go "mmmm" like 50 acres of weed n feed. I'm hoping the third arm works out for me.
            1. Propane. Gawd I HATE dealing with that.
            1. Racoons. Yes, they look cute, but when they grow up thinking they are cats, well, lets just say it sounds funnier than it is.
            1. Rattlesnakes and Copperheads. My wife froze (fortunately) when I barked "STOP!" - she was just about to step on a 4-5 foot copperhead (that was in the grass). Oh, the memories...

            I won't EVEN go into the scorpion that fell onto my crotch one evening...

            When war is considered to be more noble than peace - we have lost everything.

            by feloneouscat on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 08:21:22 AM PST

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      •  I was only breaking balls (1+ / 0-)
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        whenever I hear or read someone of power discussing the "real world" I just can't help myself.

        You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war..... Albert Einstein,

        by tazz on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 07:52:33 AM PST

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        •  Like Kos, you mean? (1+ / 0-)
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          And those of us who remain reality-based and dispassionate throughout this all

          Reminds me of a few of the gifted high school students I used to teach-- so self absorbed and full well knowing that their view of reality was the only one.

          Will give Kos the benefit of the doubt and assume that he meant to say " And those of us [whose goal] is to remain reality-based and dispasionate throughout this all..."  

          And above he admits to bias.  Otherwise he walks on water with this site as far as I am concerned...

          BTW, What has happened to Gallup's credibility with the msm.  The grand dame of polling loses out to (gag) Zogby,  another sign of corporatist takeover?

          •  I was never a poll watcher, Polls are like (0+ / 0-)

            the day's Vegas line is for my betting pool. I always bet against their line. Maybe that's why I'm still poor.

            I always give Kos the benefit of the doubt. Like I wrote, I just couldn't help myself.

            You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war..... Albert Einstein,

            by tazz on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 08:27:39 AM PST

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    •  My real world... (0+ / 0-)

      ...is an Indian that Turns into a wolf.

      Grand Rapids Michigan | -5.75, -5.54

      by TooFolkGR on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 10:02:50 AM PST

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