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  •  It's not just that they discoverd credit cards... (2+ / 0-)
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    corvo, junta0201

    It's the whole idea.

    Have you been to the malls there?

    Have you been there?

    Have you seen what they're up against?

    It's high class consumerism.

    There are 4 shoes in the windows at mall stores.

    It looks like beverly hills.

    Having that dropped on them right out of communism isn't fair.

    And the Germans that I know, gen Xers are extremely Americanized and their media is quite advanced.

    The Dutch, they're going to do their own thing. No worry about consumerism there.

    Maybe some righteous xenophobic nationalism, but I don't see them going full on consumer.

    Sharing and Caring are for Commies! They should be illegal.

    by k9disc on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 02:10:42 PM PST

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    •  no, I did not go to a mall (3+ / 0-)

      in Poland, perhaps because I do not dare to drive there.

      I am from Poland and I know something about what people are doing there.  Sometimes you may think that they spend as if there was no tomorrow.  But when you look at big ticket items, it is not so.  Number one: homes and appartments are still too expensive for most, number two: new cars are still too expensive for most, Poles buy more used cars than new ones, and I guess most young people have no cars at all.  Yet incomes grow, so they have a lot of spare cash for small items like you can get in a mall, and for vacations.  In my contacts I have more info on vacation habits, and from American point of view they are mindboggling.  A teen would have a two week horse riding camp in countryside (so far, so frugal), a week of bicycling around Bornholm and two weeks with Mom in Tuscany or Scotland.  Another year, Spain, Morocco and Croatia.  Etc. But they get odd jobs, summer jobs etc. and pay cash.

      So far, welfare moms are sacred, like cows are in India.  Americans believe in apple pie, Europeans in motherhood.


      •  What I recall from my years in Europe (3+ / 0-)

        were piles of empty shopping carts by the tourist bus stops in West Berlin and Vienna, where the Poles (West Berlin) or Czechs and Hungarians (Vienna) unloaded all of the goodies they'd bought at Aldi or Julius Meinl, all for resale for a fat profit once they'd returned to their home towns.

        Apparently a half-century of communism hadn't caused them to forget how to be small-scale entrepreneurs!

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