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  •  I have to disagree with you there, Adam... (9+ / 0-)

    Henry Hyde was committed to other people following his principals.

    He was an adulterer who used Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky as a power grab.  A five year affair with a married mother of three at the time he himself was married is not precisely a commitment to the family values he insisted upon from the podium of the House of Representatives, when he exhorted his colleagues to vote for impeachement "for the children".

    I won't gloat over his death, but I won't be shedding any tears or offering any grudging respect of a man who seriously damaged this country, and who's damaging behavior is still felt today.

    Godspeed Henry Hyde, and may God have mercy on your soul; I have none to spare.

    Civil behavior isn't about restraining from using insults or obscenities, it's about behaving like a fucking decent human being.

    by Casey Morris on Thu Nov 29, 2007 at 07:37:25 AM PST

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    •  I don't think that's accurate (3+ / 0-)
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      Hyde's speech on impeachment:

      The question before this House is rather simple. It's not a question of sex. Sexual misconduct and adultery are private acts and are none of Congress' business.

      It's not even a question of lying about sex. The matter before the House is a question of lying under oath. This is a public act, not a private act. This is called perjury. The matter before the House is a question of the willful, premeditated, deliberate corruption of the nation's system of justice. Perjury and obstruction of justice cannot be reconciled with the office of the president of the United States.

      The personal fate of the president is not the issue. The political fate of his party is not the issue. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is not the issue. The issue is perjury -- lying under oath. The issue is obstruction of justice, which the president has sworn the most solemn oath to uphold.

      That oath constituted a compact between the president and the American people. That compact has been broken. The people's trust has been betrayed. The nation's chief executive has shown himself unwilling or incapable of enforcing its laws for he has corrupted the rule of law - - the rule of law -- by his perjury and his obstruction of justice.

      That and nothing other than that is the issue before this house. ...

    •  in re The Children (1+ / 0-)
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      He said:

      In casting our votes we should look not simply to ourselves, but to the past and to the future. Let's look back to Bunker Hill, Concord, Lexington. Let's look across the river to Arlington Cemetery where American heroes who gave their lives for the sake of the rule of law lie buried. And let us not betray their memory.

      Let's look to the future, to the children of today who are the presidents and members of Congress of the next century. And let's not crush their hope that they too will inherent a law- governed society.

      Let's declare unmistakably the perjury and obstruction of justice disqualify a man from retaining the presidency of the United States.

      •  Yes, we have to do this... (1+ / 0-)
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        for the children.  

        If it was so important to uphold the rule of law during the Clinton impeachment, where was Hyde speaking up, as Bob Barr did, during the Scooter Libby trial.

        How is it that Bruce Fein and Bob Barr got the Rule of Law and Consitutional isseus, but Hyde, the fomer Chairman of the HCOJ, while Hyde stood silent as the grave?

        No, Hyde was an opportunist to the end.

        The person of principles in that scenario would be Bob Barr.  Not Henry Hyde.

        Civil behavior isn't about restraining from using insults or obscenities, it's about behaving like a fucking decent human being.

        by Casey Morris on Thu Nov 29, 2007 at 08:17:10 AM PST

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