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    I think Dem's should be worried a bit.  

    For all the talk here about Bush being a conservative president, he really wasn't.  The right wing of the Republican party doesn't really care for Bush for a number of reasons.

    Don't forget the ideological pinnings of Conservatism are, actually, attractive to a LOT of people.  Self-reliance is the fundamental one: I should take care of myself, and the government shouldn't get in my way.  They have no taste for any idea of their hospital run by the DMV style goverment.  

    They are deeply upset about the Craigs, etc. too.  In other words: no, they didn't really have a government run by conservatives.  

    They may take some lumps in 2008.  But that tends to have a cleansing effect.  Remember, Bill Clinton won in 1992, and the next election the conservatives won big.  Democrats have their own negatives, don't forget.  Those can be easily magnified by a reformed Republican party, which is back on message and task.  

    As for social issues, the culture war goes on.  And the fact remains that republicans are seen as more pro-family (especially if they clean out the party some), and Dem's want everything but that to be available it sometimes appears.  

    The anti-Christianity tone of the Democrat party, the "do what feels good" morality, all of that could backlash just as  much.  

    •  Vance: Bush is not a conservative president???? (2+ / 0-)
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      With the exception of the expansion of Medicare and the attempt to liberalize immigration, both of which were done to appeases different business lobbies, just about every other policy initiative he has either carried thru or attempted to carry thru has been deeply conservative.  

    •  The Dems don't have an anti-Christianity tone n/t (5+ / 0-)
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        not holding my breath, but I'm 'praying' for the day when Dems become so Voltairian that people get tired of it and speak with disgust of Voltaire fundamentalism.  

        When a coward sees a man he thinks he can beat he becomes hungry for a fight. -Chinhua Achebe, Things Fall Apart.

        by BughouseWW on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 02:26:06 PM PST

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    •  Self-Reliance and other mantras (1+ / 0-)
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      Yeah, for some the mantra of "self-reliance" and "small government" still rings. But increasingly the American people, when faced with reality, realize that both of them are mainly political talkingpoints. Especially beause the republicans have one fatal flaw: they've been in power for the past decade, not the democrats.  It takes a while, but it does sink in.

    •  Wow are you a Republican spin master or something (1+ / 0-)
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      Social issues were a short term winner and a longterm loser for Republicans.  Overbearing attempts to force religion in everyone's face is the same.  In fact, that sums up almost all of their issues, short term they helped them out, but longterm they will utterly destroy them.  The problem is they're on the wrong side of progress.  Time isn't running backwards.  

      Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

      by Asak on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:38:47 PM PST

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    •  Self reliance is also a loser's issue (1+ / 0-)
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      It works until a majority of the population realizes that it's not working for them.  Everyone likes to think they are exceptional, even when they are utterly average, or even below average.  At some point even the stupidest person has to wake up.  

      Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

      by Asak on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:40:56 PM PST

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