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  •  If anyone had been paying attention (3+ / 0-)
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    Spoc42, myrealname, wonderful world

    inspectors said that Iraq had no WMDs but GWB ignored them and then claimed that Saddam had kicked them out.  They have said for some time that there is no proof of Iran having a military program but GWB has chosen to ignore them.
    What a relief when the world can begin ignoring GWB.  

    •  NRO: Iraq War Ended Iranian Nuclear Threat (3+ / 0-)
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      smintheus, rlochow, wonderful world

      At the National Review, Victor Davis Hanson incredibly argues that the NIE presents a major quandary for Democrats, who must now acknowledge the wisdom of George W. Bush's Iraq war and its supposed elimination of two nuclear threats:

      "The latest news from Iran about the supposed abandonment in 2003 of the effort to produce a Bomb - if even remotely accurate - presents somewhat of a dilemma for liberal Democrats. Are they now to suggest that Republicans have been warmongering over a nonexistent threat for partisan purposes?

      After all, what critic would wish now to grant that one result of the 2003 war - aside from the real chance that Iraq can stabilize and function under the only consensual government in the region - might have been the elimination, for some time, of two growing and potentially nuclear threats to American security, quite apart from Saddam Hussein?"

      •  I Knew It! (1+ / 0-)
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        Somebody was bound to spin this as "Look, GWB is brilliant...we said so all along...nana nana boo boo!"

        "No, it's all right," said the prospective diner. "The slugs have formed a defensive ring." -- Moving Pictures. Terry Pratchett.

        by wonderful world on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 10:53:47 AM PST

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      •  Are we going to suggest that Republicans (0+ / 0-)

        have been warmongering over a nonexistent threat for partisan purposes?

        Well, duh. That's exactly what Republicans have been doing since 2001!

      •  the unacknowledged problem for Bush (1+ / 0-)
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        is that in May 2003 Iran offered to cut a deal on a grand scale with the US, putting everything on the table including its nuclear program. Cheney & Co. rejected the idea of negotiating out of hand.

        So I think they'll want to spin this, in particular, as a demonstration that they were right not to negotiate with Iran.

        As for Victor's theory, the problem is that by the fall of 2003 the occupation of Iraq was already looking like a quagmire (in fact, that was being said in the US press by June 2003, at the latest). Surely Iran was able to see that they could keep the US pinned down in Iraq by the fall of 2003.

      •  Ah, so they can have it both ways... (0+ / 0-)

        Right on Iraq and right on Iran...sneaky fucks, those Republicans.

        Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

        by darthstar on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 11:21:24 AM PST

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