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  •  I will have to really read that diary in depth (1+ / 0-)
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    I am glad that we have smoothed a bunch of the kinks out in our discussions, that takes a weight off of my mind and sure puts my Mom at peace as well (snackdoodle/ghengismom), who likes you a great deal.

    oh a MAJOR change of subject because I just heard it on the local news here in Omaha... You know probably about the mall shooting today and Bush' visit.  Well one of the local NBC reporters was doing a standup at the mall for the local coverage and was just musing about how she was thinking this morning about how what if something really bad happened today that would focus national attention on the city (alluding to Bush being shot), and who would have thought that it would be a mall shooting.

    My point is that if anyone says that things are not restless in the Midwest they should think about that:  Local reporters are wondering if the pres is going to get whacked when he visits and really worrying about it.  I just had to get that down while it was fresh.

    •  It's a long read (the diary) ... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... but you can read it in parts and find the parts that coincide with what you have been talking about.

      I'm also glad we're ironing this out -- not only because I have always liked you but because I think we both care about the same things and now we can work together rather than at odds with each other.

      We're both stubborn, tho, so I doubt we'll always agree on everything!

      Interesting stuff about Omaha.  I come from the Midwest, and I am not at all surprised they are "restless" there -- jobs are being slashed, so many soldiers killed from that region, being wounded and not getting care, all of the ills of this evil misAdministration.

      Maybe you should write a diary about this.

      •  I don't want to go to Gitmo quite yet (1+ / 0-)
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        and IF I write on anything approaching that I will likely end up there.

        I would definitely get booted from here at the very least......

        We both may be stubborn but not STUPID stubborn...or we would still be fighting : )

      •  On the diary (1+ / 0-)
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        I have already seen a few things that I have minor and rather mild quibbles with but nothing worth a ruckus, but in general thus far I don't see anything outside of my comfort zone.  The biggest issue so far that I have not seen addressed is a rather touchy one so it is understandable that it might not have been brought up, and that is the racial component.  How are we going to keep the proposed new immigration system from showing a net racial bias?

        If the basic crux of Dukes proposal is acted upon what you in effect have is a an overall increase in immigration quota with a broadened economic cross section.  So if it uses the present framework but with those two variables altered it is likely to still not serve the needs of our hemispheric neighbors, as presently no one single nation can send over a certain number of persons per year.  In the new one that number just is a larger one then presently being used as such it will slow but not stop unlawful migration.  

        I bring it up because a response plan will need to be formulated and refined to deal with the potential problems that an ethnically skewed immigration system may bring about; not the least of which is political responses from the Black community who will see political power shifts as a result as well as less then welcoming whites.

        That little confluence could really bite deeply into ones ass down the road.

        •  Well ... (1+ / 0-)
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          ... as far as the Black community, I read an excellent post generally about this over at Nezua's The Unapologetic Mexican speaking frankly with the African American author of The Latino Challenge to Black America, Earl Ofari Hutchinson, who had written about the strains between the black and Latino communities.

          I don't think we need to reinvent the wheel on this.  The diverse blogosphere is probably way ahead of us on the issue of race, there's blogs of every ethnic variety that are tackling this issue.

          The quota systems now in place are very confusing to me to understand.  Duke wrote a diary about this but I can't say I would be able to explain what he said in a way that would be useful.

          I don't think this would be a difficult thing to work out.  And a discussion about race is, to me, a useful thing.

          •  as long as we can anticipate enough of the (1+ / 0-)
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            probable friction points and a way to lessen the "heat" generated by it ahead of time we can achieve greater social change more easily, as fewer people will perceive that change as a threat and react against it.

            And keeping reactionary forces down is a net good for everyone.

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