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  •  Well said (2+ / 0-)
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    ManhattanMan, sdgeek

    This is not a complex issue; it's only made so by the need by some to obfuscate. We should decide how many people we can accommodate and give that many people green cards (which by the way do lead to full citizenship in five years). Everything else is one form or another of semi-slavery/indentured servitude.

    Somebody will be here shortly to inform us that we're nothing but a bunch of xenophobic bigots who hate immigrants just because they're not white.

    •  That's exactly how it works (2+ / 0-)
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      ManhattanMan, Duke1676

      We should decide how many people we can accommodate and give that many people green cards (which by the way do lead to full citizenship in five years).

      That's exactly how immigration law works. The number of people we (or rather, Congress) decided we can accommodate is called the "quota". Or rather, I should say, that's exactly how immigration law currently does not work.

      And it is actually one of the main culprits for illegal immigration.

      The problem is that the quota is so low that most people don't ever have a chance to get a Green Card. So they come illegally.

      For instance, the spouse of a Green Card holder currently has to live separated from her husband for six years before she can get a Green Card herself.

      In some other categories, the quota is so low that the wait is currently 23 years, and expected to grow to 40 years for people who start the process now.

      That, of course, is ridiculous even for our own interest. What's the point of preventing somebody in his 20s from immigrating and contributing to Social Security, but allowing the same person to immigrate when he reached retirement age?

      And that's for those lucky 1% or so of the world's population who would even qualify for a Green Card to begin with.

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      by sdgeek on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 07:54:52 PM PST

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      •  All of this is absolutely true (0+ / 0-)

        and I know much of it from experience, being that my wife is a Canadian immigrant. Even after she becomes a citizen, her brother will apparently have to wait 20-40 years to come to the United States.

        This is where I think the progressives go off the rails on the immigration question. Instead of sacrificing all of our political capital on "amnesty" (or whatever euphemism you prefer), why not focus on fixing the legal immigration system so that it accommodates the actual demand?

        •  actually we need to do both (4+ / 0-)

          and in fact if we fixed the legal immigration system, we wouldn't have to waste so much time, effort, and political capital on questions of the undocumented migrants. It's a matter of cause and effect. The current broken system only fosters and encourages unauthorized entry.

          To offer "amnesty" without fixing the system will inevitably result in only more undocumented migrants....but to effectively fix the legal immigration system the question of the 12 million already here must be resolved. That's why we need to start to look at this issue in a truly comprehensive way (and that by no means has been reflected in any of the so-called "comprehensive" reforms we've seen so far coming out of Washington).


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