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  •  Also, much is being made of the fact (2+ / 0-)
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    that we waterboard our own guys so that they are prepared for such an experience if they are captured. However, such training vs the reality is the same difference in basic training for the military and actually being in combat. In training, conditions are controlled as much as possible and there is little chance of death or injury (comparatively speaking) as opposed to actual combat situations.
    With waterboard training you know that you can stop it at any time and the people doing it will stop if it becomes too much for you. In real life you have no control over anything and no certainty that the torturers will stop or that they will not allow you to drown.

    BTW didn't anyone ever develop aspiration peumonia from waterboarding? That would be another reason to not do it; you might accidently kill off your source with an unintended infection.

    •  Not sure about pneumonia, but I'm pretty sure (0+ / 0-)

      waterboarding has resulted in some deaths through heart attack and stroke.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Sat Dec 15, 2007 at 05:10:09 PM PST

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    •  Monsters find it amusing to watch (0+ / 0-)

      their victims suffer with disease and infections.  Because they know the information they seek is a lie. They have no need or interest in the victim's health or well being...
      and every interest in letting him die before he reveals the truth.
      He is there to serve the purpose of authoring the propaganda that the Monsters want to fabricate as  reality.  

      There is no "getting" real information from torture, only fabricating evidence to justify their neocon sins of lust for power, wealth, prejudice, bigotry, and denial.
      All this while the victim goes on suffering the vengance and hate at the whims of the monsters who keep them.
      How has  America fallen so low...
       

      Pay attention, they're lying!: http://www.antiwar.com/orig/porter.php?articleid=10400

      by Fireshadow on Sat Dec 15, 2007 at 09:13:54 PM PST

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