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  •  Within limits (0+ / 0-)

        Am not sure that stronger federal gun control laws, $5000 baby bonds, and other stuff would fly though, heh heh...

    •  Well, The Dems Have Learned Their Lesson on Guns (6+ / 0-)

      Don't expect them to go there.  

      As for the Baby Bond, it's actually not that far off from Milton Friedman's idea of a guaranteed national wage paid to all citizens.  But--SHOCKINGLY!--that's the one Friedman idea that never seemed to get much support.

      The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

      by Dana Houle on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 04:36:16 PM PST

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      •  Expect a switch to 'gun training' (3+ / 0-)
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        Even most 'gun nuts' don't want untrained, incompetent people carrying guns.

        I think the only gun control we'll see broad support for politically is requiring people to take gun use classes before getting guns.  (It would have several positive effects, mainly a lot fewer 'accidents'.)

        -5.63, -8.10 | Impeach, Convict, Remove & Bar from Office, Arrest, Indict, Convict, Imprison!

        by neroden on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 07:13:20 PM PST

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        •  Unless the Supreme Court Does Something... (2+ / 0-)
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          ...to upset the current status quo, I don't expect the Dems to come anywhere close to guns.  I'm not saying you're wrong about that issue, and maybe in some states you'll see that as a "third way" on guns.  But with Dems needing to do well in lots of areas with generally moderate voters who love their guns--and that includes much of my home state of Michigan--I expect they'll just avoid guns entirely.  

          The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

          by Dana Houle on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 07:18:11 PM PST

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          •  Think you're right DH, haven't heard a peep from (1+ / 0-)
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            any local repubs on gun control. Think they are worn out(or confident enough) on that wedge.

            I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat. -Will Rogers

            by geez53 on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 07:42:18 PM PST

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            •  We Aren't Giving Them Anything to Use... (1+ / 0-)
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              ..against Dems.  The NRA is pissed because they like to toss out a bunch of votes through the year on which they can rate members of Congress, but the Dems in the House aren't giving them any opportunities to make guns a wedge issue.  They've had to resort to using silly votes like a prohibition on bringing polar bear pelts in to the US as a rated vote, as if voting against importing polar bear pelts imperils one's second amendment rights.  

              The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

              by Dana Houle on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 07:46:41 PM PST

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              •  Well, ya know how Colbert feels about bears...n/t (1+ / 0-)
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                I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat. -Will Rogers

                by geez53 on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 07:49:33 PM PST

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              •  Agree with any stratagy that denies footholds. (1+ / 0-)
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                Which brings we to an interesting twist on immigration. We need to reframe the entire issue as neither left or right, but up and down.
                The racist accusations really piss me and most liberal blue collars. It's a big trip wire we don't need.

                I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat. -Will Rogers

                by geez53 on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 07:54:06 PM PST

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                •  Dems need to embrace (0+ / 0-)

                  strengthening/closing the borders first and foremost on any immigration plan.  That's what the American voter wants, and no amount of "reframing" is going to change their minds.

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