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  •  Dodd: We're not just talking case by case here. (3+ / 0-)
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    Dodd is going over the testimony about the secret NSA rooms at the telecoms. He's going into technical details, which I fear the rest of the Senate will sleep through, but the ultimate point he's trying to get out is: We're not talking about one-off incidents of eavesdropping. We're talking about a system, right now, already in existence, already operating, that taps into the entire domestic telephone and data networks, into which every single communication is copied. And only NSA-authorized personnel are allowed inside the rooms, so no one but them know what goes on inside.

    Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.

    by romulusnr on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 02:29:44 PM PST

    •  Dodd: It's not about punishment (1+ / 0-)
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      It's not about punishing the telecoms, it's about openness about the telco monitoring program.

      We have no idea what went on in this program, how can we presume that there should be immunity for it?

      Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.

      by romulusnr on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 02:36:49 PM PST

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    •  How long can the "after 9-11" argument fly? (0+ / 0-)

      Dodd skewers Mikulski's "think about where we were" line, by pointing out that this wasn't just a panicky action in the smoke of the twin towers, but a five-year program.

      Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.

      by romulusnr on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 02:39:49 PM PST

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    •  Dodd: So what if telecoms get skittish (2+ / 0-)
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      Hatch earlier said that if we deny immunity, the telcos will be less willing to cooperate with intelligence gathering efforts.

      Dodd says, Good. They should be wary of aiding warrantless wiretapping.

      Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.

      by romulusnr on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 02:43:09 PM PST

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    •  Dodd is all over this. Too bad the Dems suck. (0+ / 0-)

      Dodd has skewered every argument for immunity, from left and right. This should be a no-brainer for the Senate or at least for the Dems.

      I knew the Dems would fuck us (progressives). 2006, retake the congress, big fucking deal, I said. The Dems have fucked us before and will continue to fuck us. They don't mind sucking our dicks before election day. Then they turn us around and fuck us in the ass.

      Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.

      by romulusnr on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 02:51:20 PM PST

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      •  Dodd calls quorum. (3+ / 0-)
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        At the end of his comments, Dodd points out the lack of a quorum in the chamber, meaning plenty of congressmen have bailed. Good showing, guys. No need to listen to anything important.

        Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.

        by romulusnr on Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 02:59:14 PM PST

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