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  •  Perhaps.......but the Pope has...... (0+ / 0-)

    ...condemned gay marriage in no uncertain terms. Likewise the right to an abortion. And the Republicans have been very successful at creating derision for the very idea that there should be a separation between church and state.

    Latino immigrants have been peeled off very successfully on these social issues. Latinos went for Bush by 40% in the last travesty masking as an election.  

    There is a question in my mind about the degree to which Americans, including latino immigrants, will make our government's torture of Middle Eastern men  a factor in voting. If they aren't the ones being tortured, it requires a high degree of empathy, or a good degree of moral outrage over our gross violations of the laws of war and the Geneva conventions.

    I do not believe Americans will be easily riled on such issues.

    I guess you can say I am faithless.

    "I am my brother's keeper. I am a Democrat." -- That's your slogan, Democrats.

    by Bensdad on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:40:26 PM PST

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    •  Well nobody in the Reich worried overmuch (2+ / 0-)

      About poor treatment of communists, homosexuals, gypsies, Slavs and, oh yeah, Jews.

      Then there was Sophie Scholl

      And the Reich had no compunction about killing her, either.

      I am sure Germany did not lose its soul that day, that decision being made long before. But with the execution of Sophie Scholl the country destroyed that which is most precious in itself - the last traces of its conscience.

      I am amazed with how much one country had changed itself, once awakened from its horrid dream. At the same time, to dive into the Nazi Era is to see not what is alien and monstrous but what is frightfully banal in its villainy.

      Only Americans are having a torture debate.

      by cskendrick on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:05:43 PM PST

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