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    •  He doesn't typically (6+ / 0-)

      do tip jars - but does do comments. Unlike some others ...

      •  I once saw his soul for sale .. (13+ / 0-)

        .. on E-Bay. But it was snapped up before I could bid. By an agent of the Republican party if I remember correctly.

      •  What about you Larry? (5+ / 0-)

        care to explain your smear against Dodd yesterday...

        It went something like this....

        There are things I know about from his adventures in Central America during the 1986-88 time period that would create problems for him if known. And I'm not going beyond that because I think he has grown up and become a solid guy.  But, the rightwing smear machine would have a field day.

        Sounds like we don't need the rightwing. We have YOU.

        You wouldn't be talking about Jennifer Jean Casolo would you?

        I know Dodd was against the death squads you seem to think were a lesser of two evils. And I know he went out of his way to oppose St. Ronnie's leftist extermination project.

        Is that the super secret info you have against Dodd?

        Some of us weren't sleeping during the 80's Larry.

        Some of us want to know what your feelings on Hugo Spadafora are.

        And playing two degrees of Kevin Bacon finds you attached to Oliver North, Manuel Noriega, and the decapitation and torture of a DEA informant that happened to be informing on the drug trafficking of your precious Contras three days after he told your partner at Berg Associates while he was DEA head in Costa Rica.

        So why don't you tell everyone what it is you do for a living, and who you are in business with.

        While you are at it, why don't you tell us what you think of Gary Webb.

        •  Why are you, of all people, (6+ / 0-)

          attacking someone on their right to free speech.

          After the way you constantly attack the Clintons, you have a lot of nerve to call accuse someone of using a right wing tactic.

          How about you go have some egg nog and enjoy the holiday instead of constantly attacking someone who has dedicated his life to freedom and democracy.

          •  whatever dude. (6+ / 0-)

            Wake up.

            As for attacking the Clinton's.... I'm sorry if your delicate democratic ears can't handle the darker side of the Clinton administration. But some of us will speak out to avoid a repeat.

            If you can link to a single untruth I've posted about Larry or the Clinton's that would be another story.

          •  Where did you ever get the idea.. (2+ / 0-)
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            ...that being opposed to the Clintons was an exclusive right of the right wing? Bill Clinton was no liberal he is and was in bed with corporate America and the Globalists who have virtually destroyed the American middle classes economically. Bill Clinton was the best president the backers of the Republican Party have had since FDR.

            He really earned the nickname Slick Willie as he gave the best liberal sounding speeches I have heard, including those of JFK and RFK, but he governed like a corporate supporting conservative. Bill Clinton was the smartest politician we have seen in on the American political stage since Roosevelt, it is too damned bad he was a sociopathic liar and Republican policy-enacting politico with the manners and morals of a Republican wheeler dealer as well. IMO, Hillary is not much better. I don't trust either one of them any further than I could throw them...damned yuppie closet Republicans gone wild.

            I loathe Republican principles and policies, and am not so stupid I don’t recognize those policies when they are being perused by someone in a donkey suit and waving a Democratic banner and talking with liberal sounding lips.

            The young man who has not wept is a savage, and the old man who will not laugh is a fool. George Santayana

            by Bobjack23 on Mon Dec 24, 2007 at 06:49:22 PM PST

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      •  My tip: Don't buy anything from L.C. (5+ / 0-)

        L.C. praises the Gipper's dirty wars:

        The Reagan policy of promoting democracy actually worked and the people of Central America have enjoyed the benefits. -L.C. Johnson, December 24, 2007.

        The Gipper's real record in Central America:

        Reagan was responsible for killing tens of thousands of innocent people in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, and Honduras as he waged illegal wars and funded brutal militaries. The truth commission of El Salvador investigated the murders of 75,000 people during the civil war in the 1980s, and it found that the Salvadoran military, or death squads connected to the military, had committed the bulk of those crimes. At the time, Bush was lavishing hundreds of millions of dollars on the Salvadoran government, and his CIA was working with the death squads.

        L.C.'s sleazy mission:

        Larry C. Johnson is CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm that helps multinational corporations and financial institutions identify strategic opportunities

        Our Mission
        To help businesses achieve financial security, protect their assets, preserve hard earned corporate reputations and compete successfully in the global economy.  

        •  indeed (3+ / 0-)
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          Look at the third name on the Partners list.

          Then see what Robert Parry said in 97

          But by mid-1985, Spadafora was furious with the drug corruption. He contacted the DEA's chief officer in Costa Rica, Robert Nieves, to complain about contra drug trafficking. Nieves considered Spadafora's information too vague to pursue, but Spadafora declared that he still intended to denounce Noriega and the contras.

          On Sept. 13, 1985, Spadafora boarded a bus for Panama City and, that afternoon, crossed into Panama. But at a check point, soldiers stopped the bus and dragged Spadafora off. His beheaded body was found a day later stuffed into a U.S. mail bag on the bank of a river on the Costa Rican side of the border.

          The Spadafora murder touched off new suspicions about cocaine trafficking by the contras, their backers in Costa Rica and Noriega's Panamanian Defense Forces. On Dec. 20, 1985, for The Associated Press, Brian Barger and I wrote the first news story citing the growing evidence that contra units operating in northern Costa Rica had engaged in drug trafficking.

          Eventually, Costa Rican authorities would agree, accusing pro-contra Cuban exiles and other Americans of using Costa Rica as a drug transshipment point. As part of these findings, Costa Rica barred the CIA's Joe Fernandez and North from the Central American nation.

          (Fernandez and North have denied any role in drug trafficking, but failed to return phone calls seeking comments for this article. Now retired from the DEA, Nieves works with North and Fernandez at Guardian Technologies, a bullet-proof vest company in Sterling, Virginia. Nieves said he did not recall the name John Molina.)

          Actually Nieves is now Partners with Larry.

          •  Let's post this info... (2+ / 0-)
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            whenever this arrogant Blackwateresque CEO and death squad apologist shows up on dkos.

            •  I've got to agree with you guys on this. (2+ / 0-)
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              I should be aware of someone who has made money this way and temper my opinions of the argument.

              At least he uses his own name. It's the true sock puppets who screw up a lot of the debate here, and even after a couple of years here I fall for it sometimes.

              Do you have a child? Will you send her to the war?... anon

              by andreww on Tue Dec 25, 2007 at 05:28:59 AM PST

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              •  using his real name.... (2+ / 0-)
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                acquittal, MJ via Chicago

                What Larry is trying to do requires that he use his real name.

                This information about Larry isn't secret. He uses these relationships when it suits him.

                He uses us similarly.

                I couldn't give shit if he supported his right wing death squad, drug trafficking, arms smuggling friends on his blog or at his Washington military contractor cocktail parties.

                What I will try and stop is the power worshiping jingoism that has left leaning kos posters hitting the recommend button every time this asshole cut and pastes, or feeds us the agency line.

                What about SusanHu? Hu (who) indeed.

                Here is a kos poster that since 2004 has been writing well sourced, provocative, and insightful diaries on a range of issues from Darfur, to the atrocities committed anywhere in Baghdad or NOLA.

                At some point in 2005 she starts writing about Larry and the Plame investigation.

                Today she is a top blogger at Larry's blog and she is posting Hillary hit pieces on Obama filled with lies and distortions.

                Her Hillary posts are filled with the most superficial platitudes that never mention anything Hillary has been party to over the past 2 decades that might mitigate the adulation.

                How could a woman that posted the following diary here on this site write for a blog run by a guy who is business partners with people that do this kind of thing for breakfast...

                The Road to Hell in Africa
                by SusanHu

                Tue Jul 05, 2005 at 11:09:20 AM EST

                "UK gunrunners fuelling killings, mass rape and torture in Democratic Republic of Congo": Today's press release from Amnesty Int'l to pressure G8 members convening this week. On June 22, BooTrib noted, Amnesty issued another shocker: "G8 sales account for 84% of all worldwide arms supplies."

                Money makes the world go 'round, doesn't it.

                No matter that Pygmies are massacred and cannibalized. Or that young girls are gang-raped.

                I popped in on Under the Same Sun blog, which quotes Guardian columnist George Monbiot's post at his blog on debt relief:


                •  And what the hell are your credentials (0+ / 0-)

                  and why do you think you have the right to say who is worthy of my reading or respecting?  What gives you the right to sit upon some moralistic, judgmental high horse peering over your sanctimonious nose, looking down at us and telling us who is evil and who is not.

                  As far as I can tell your litmus test is who hates Hillary enough is good, who loves the sainted Obama is good and who does not listen to you, or who supports Hillary is evil.

                  Thanks but I will do my own reading and thinking.

                  •  strawman city (3+ / 0-)
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                    acquittal, zombie, MJ via Chicago

                    I'm not asking you to take anything I say at face value, or using my reputation to influence opinion. Therefore my credentials are irrelevant.

                    If you want to kiss the imperial ring be my guest, I'm not stopping you.

                    That said I will not let Larry provide an open forum to attack and lie about a Democratic candidate without doing my best to inform everyone why he might be doing it.

                    Pleasant journeys.

            •  Well until he responds (1+ / 0-)
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              at least.

              What he's trying to do is what Boeing and Lockheed Martin are trying to do when they advertise on CNN.

              They aren't trying to sell you and I f-14s or precision guided missiles to protect our back yards from nosy neighbors.

              They are trying to create an image or impression of quality and reliability so that we feel good about hearing the latest 50 billion dollar contract going their way.

              Larry is trying to do the same. He's hoping for big time contracts from Hillary and needs to create a good guy image amongst Liberals so we don't freak the fuck out when he does.

      •  Larry, (3+ / 0-)
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        I think that your distaste for Novak caused you to skip over a few interesting tidbits from the column. Much worse than getting the organizational details wrong is Novak's interesting take on intelligence vs. policy:

        In its clean bill of health for Iran on nuclear weapons development, the agency acted as an independent policymaker rather than an adviser.

        Excuse me, Mr. Magoo Novak, but "policy" is what you do with intelligence, unless, of course, you are in the habit of "fixing the intelligence around the policy."

        Then there is this gem:

        It [the CIA] has withheld from nearly all members of Congress information on the Israeli bombing of Syria in September. The U.S. intelligence community is deciding on its own what information the public shall learn.

        Since when does the CIA, DNI, NIC, or any other part of the alphabet soup decide what "the public" learns? I assume he really means "the government", but I'm not sure it is good for my mental health to try to get too far inside his "brain".

        Come see TV from the reality-based community at

        by MarkInSanFran on Mon Dec 24, 2007 at 03:44:40 PM PST

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      •  Republicans (0+ / 0-)

        You're doing the right-wing's work by reflexively responding directly to their spin.

        Republicans political operatives are good at politics and know what buttons to push to get Democratic activists to react. Among some of the reflexive left the most damning thing that can be said of Obama is he's popular with Republicans.

        There are plenty of good Americans among the Republican rank-and-file and they are not only welcome but needed in moving this country forward out of a generation of particularly stupid, mean, small-bore politics. Listen to them, not the GOP pundits.

    •  I agree, great diary... (3+ / 0-)

         Much too much to digest in one sitting. The connection of Pete Hoekstra in the House and Dick Cheney need to be analyzed but was not included in this diary. Hoeskstra has railed against the CIA and its destruction of the tapes. You know that he has been told by Cheney to pin the deal on this brown skin fellow named Jose.
         The problem is that Jose went through this deal back in the 80's when he was told to follow orders and not ask questions during Iran-Contra. Then when he got caught in shit with everyone else, he was told that the CIA wouldn't provide a lawyer and he was on his on. Well, it appears that Jose has a long memory.
         My guess is that he has papers to show that Addington in Cheney's office gave the wink for him to destroy the tapes. Cheney and Hoekstra evidently don't think he is too bright. My best guess is that he teamed up with Reyes and knows not to trust Cheney.
         Cheney was able to help the Reagan administration while he was in the House with the Iran-Contra investigation. Lee Hamilton was a patsy at that time and bit the bait hook, line and sinker. Reyes will not allow Jose to be taken down so easily.

      Eisenhower- "We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage."

      by NC Dem on Mon Dec 24, 2007 at 03:37:24 PM PST

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