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  •  They could do that. (2+ / 0-)
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    greenearth, phonegery

    But then some of the very important programs they've authorized for veterans and active military aren't authorized, which technically means they can't be established or funded.

    Of course, Bush's signing statement on the DOD appropriations bill rejected that distinction.

    •  More than that wouldn't be funded (2+ / 0-)
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      greenearth, phonegery

      Bush keeps pushing back at Congress trying to create an operational crisis. I'm ready to see Congress give him one. If they won't use Impeachment to drag out the facts of his criminal conduct, let them use his veto to unfund the Defense Department. Who's weak on Defense then?

      My sister is a federal employee working for the Army. She's been told she won't be working after February because the Democrats refuse to fund the Defense bill. I pointed out the bill was on Bush's desk and all he had to do was sign it. If she's out of work, she owes it to her brave leader W.

      -7.88, -7.13 Republicans hate us for our freedoms

      by ocooper on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 05:18:49 PM PST

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      •  He signed the funding bill. (3+ / 0-)
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        trevzb, never forget 2000, greenearth

        But vetoed that authorizing bill.

        If you believe his signing statement, the net result of that is that he has accepted the money, and vetoed Congress's control over how it's spent.

        Perfect, if you're Bush.

        •  What athourity does he have to spend? (0+ / 0-)

          Section 8: The Congress shall have power

          To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces

          -7.88, -7.13 Republicans hate us for our freedoms

          by ocooper on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 05:42:59 PM PST

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          •  I think that clause... (1+ / 0-)
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            generally refers to the establishment of what became the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

            But in the real world, you're not supposed to be able to spend money on unauthorized programs.

            In Bushworld, he says he can do whatever he wants. They money, having been appropriated, is in the hands of his "unitary executive." And he says he makes the decisions on how it's spent.

            Unless someone says otherwise, and with sufficient force to win the argument.

            I haven't seen anyone capable of doing that just yet.

    •  Doesn't whatever happens affect the (0+ / 0-)

      entire bill?  If it's sent back, the whole bill is held up.  If they cave, and modify the part pertaining to the programs for veterans and active military, and send it back,  they will have given him the equivalent of a line item veto.

      In any conflict, the boundaries of behavior are defined by the party which cares least about morality. Randy Wayne White

      by phonegery on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 07:37:54 PM PST

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