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  •  I do think it moves us closer. (2+ / 0-)
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    Gary Norton, Yellow Canary

    Its true that apartheid had officially ended, but the abusive structures and badge-wearing criminals who committed the worst abuses were still in place; still, in many cases, respectable members of society.

    In a way, the TRC wasn't really about apartheid; it was about the invisible, extra-legal system of state-sanctioned murder and torture that was justified in the name of apartheid. The torture and murder perpetrated against "terrorists" were not officially part of the law so changing the law wouldn't never have brought them to an end.

    What did bring them to an end was seeing respected members of the Security Police confess their involvement. In many cases, even the the SP's families didn't even know that dad was off torturing and killing "terrorists" when the sun went down. It made the truth undeniable. It forced the nation to look itself in the eye in a way that couldn't be written off by the Afrikaners as "victor's justice".

    That's what I'm hoping for here.

    The opposite of 'liberal' isn't 'conservative', its 'authoritarian'.

    by kingubu on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 12:23:09 PM PST

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    •  Thanks for the comments ... (3+ / 0-)

      ... I understand and can support the idea now.

      I think it will have to be a massive truth-telling.  We need "undeniable truth" not only from the bullies with electrodes and waterboards, but also from the psychologists who helped hone torture techniques, from the doctors who helped keep victims alive to be tortured anew, from the generals who arranged it, from the pilots who flew secret missions, from the mechanics who kept their planes working, from the concrete workers who helped build the black sites, from the upper level generals who ran them, and of course from the President and Vice President of the United States who ordered torture.

      And then we can move on to the war of aggression committed by the war criminals George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney.

      And along the way perhaps we will find out where all our money has gone.

      The United States tortures. Now what?

      by Yellow Canary on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 12:39:06 PM PST

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