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  •  it has nothing to do with gender (1+ / 0-)
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    gsbadj

    her attacks have to do with her policies

    •  Not gender (0+ / 0-)

      She also receives the scorn of those on the left who disliked her husband's penchant for triangulation.

      I've always thought her campaign somewhat odd.  She emphasizes "experience," presumably from her time as First Lady, since she has served only one full Senate term.  

      At the same time, she tries to distance herself from her status as First Lady by portraying herself as an proponent of "change."

      Is she part of the status quo or is she an agent of change?  I don't favor her in these primaries at all.

      But that being said, I'd vote her with both hnads in 11/08.

      "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

      by gsbadj on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 12:32:07 PM PST

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      •  The diarist and I are not talking about (2+ / 0-)
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        Gabriele Droz, RonRaunikar

        reasoned comments that address her policy stands.  Those are absolutely fine and you will find Hillary supporters on this site willing to discuss them.

        We are talking about words like shrill, angry, losing it, catfight, yelling, screaming, ABC, etc., etc., etc.

    •  As it should be (0+ / 0-)

      Will someone somewhere have a sex based bias against Hillary, of course....but the implication that anyone who criticizes her viability or recognizes the perhaps unfair yet perhaps true notion that her personality will be a national issue to deal with....that irritates me.

      Not all of us are sexists, but there's an uphill battle to fight by suggesting that all we have to do is change long-standing cultural reality between now and November, or between now and the primary deadlines that follow.

      •  I have no issues with criticizing her (2+ / 0-)
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        Ericwmr, RonRaunikar

        viability.  See my above comment to gsbadj for what I mean.

        If you want to go with the most electable in the general election, without a doubt that would be John Edwards as a white man.  I don't think Edwards is going to make it to the nomination, so you might as well prepare yourself for dealing with the cultural reality of a female or black candidate.

        •  misdirected post.. (2+ / 0-)
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          Montague, RonRaunikar

          "as it should be" was intended to respond to another....I completely agree with the idea that, fair or not, we've gotta have a pragmatic look at the cultural reality and think more in terms of offsetting biases than changing them.  

          Yea, there is some truly disgusting commentary coming out from some posters here, but what we see on Kos is only indicative of what either nominee faces in the real world and/or a general election.

    •  why then are they framed often in a sexist way? (1+ / 0-)
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      RonRaunikar

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