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  •  Palm Sunday (1+ / 0-)
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    Osiris

    Not kidding on the poor judgment when judgment was so important.

    •  Whoa whoa whoa... (1+ / 0-)
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      bawbie

      I always had it that he was absent for the vote (as was Kucinich, just to name one prominent progressive) because of a family vacation, something he's now calling on of his biggest mistakes.

      That's a far cry from active support.

      "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think they'll hate you."

      by Pegasus on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 08:45:18 AM PST

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      •  one* of. n/t (0+ / 0-)

        "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think they'll hate you."

        by Pegasus on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 08:45:44 AM PST

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      •  Absent again? Convenient, always convenient (1+ / 0-)
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        The only record I could find of who voted for what on that Palm Sunday resolution doesn't include Obama's name at all...as if he didn't even exist in the Senate at the time. Weird stuff. He did admit to poor judgment on the Terri Schiavo case, anapology to his credit now...but what about then? If he can excoriate Hillary on her judgments and we have something showing that his wasn't too sound when he was faced with a tough one, then don't we have hypocrisy?

        •  Take a guess how many Senators were there. (1+ / 0-)
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          Give up?  It was THREE.  Fucking three.  There wasn't a Democrat in the building.  Take your BS mudslinging elsewhere.

          http://www.democraticunderground.com...

          "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think they'll hate you."

          by Pegasus on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 09:08:38 AM PST

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          •  Obama's statement was in ChicagoTrib (1+ / 0-)
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            Sorry, he knew he wouldn't be able to deny having taken the position on the issue that he morally and intellectually took in the article. Jesus, he was QUOTED. I'm not making it up.

          •  HouseVoted/ObamaFacilitated by conscious inaction (0+ / 0-)

            This was the product of this and Obama made a conscious decision not to stand firmly with the rule of law on the side of individual civil rights.

            Most surprising to Democrats was Obama’s support of congressional intervention to grant the right of federal court review to the parents of Terri Schiavo, a Florida woman in a 15-year persistent vegetative state who had become the object of a protracted legal dispute between her parents and her husband over her right to die. Her husband, whose legal right to determine what was best for his wife in the absence of her own ability to do so was backed by the courts, asserted that his wife had declared while still cognizant that she did not want to be kept alive artificially; he wanted her feeding tube removed, which would result in her painless (as her doctors agreed) death from starvation. Terri Schiavo’s parents, on the other hand, wanted her kept alive and fought for the right to determine her care. The public and political battle that erupted around the family’s legal rights fell, for the most part, along party lines—with conservatives in favor of the parents and liberals behind the husband. "There’s nothing unconstitutional about having a little more due process than was due," Obama said in defense of his decision, as reported by Rick Pearson in the Chicago Tribune (March 27, 2005). "Do I like the fact that Congress acts in rash fashion as opposed to deliberative fashion on this or any number of situations but fails to act on crises like the Medicare situation? No. But I have been there for only 3 1/2 months. What troubled me at the margins was not sufficient to raise an objection and shut down the Senate."

            •  You ever see those red-text bibles? (0+ / 0-)

              I should stress strongly that I'm not comparing Obama to Jesus (Slate already had their fun with that), but if you do what those Bibles do and take out the interpretation, leaving only the man's words, you get:

              There’s nothing unconstitutional about having a little more due process than was due... Do I like the fact that Congress acts in rash fashion as opposed to deliberative fashion on this or any number of situations but fails to act on crises like the Medicare situation? No. But I have been there for only 3 1/2 months. What troubled me at the margins was not sufficient to raise an objection and shut down the Senate.

              Which is pretty much Obama being the careful con-law wonk that he can be at times, not a chip off the Bill Frist block re: the right to die.

              "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think they'll hate you."

              by Pegasus on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 09:34:01 AM PST

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